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Old 10-05-2011, 11:12 PM   #16
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"Why on earth would some idiot cut the flange off?????
Didn't you know, roofing is all about cosmetics. Yeah never mind
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Old 10-05-2011, 11:36 PM   #17
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Here's a little background: Company is 15 years old. Licensed for 11. Member of BBB - no complaints. 16 reviews on Angie's list with a B average. We interviewed 5+ companies in the roofing business.

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* Called on a weekend to notify us they would start on a weekday. Considering it's fall we said ok. After watching the work we called to check if they obtained proper permits (per his contract). None were requested.

* Obviously used two types of shingles. Contract said 30 yr but they dropped 2 pallets of 25yr off. One is almost gone, the other is partially gone. Also seeing some cut up for edges. I did see a few random packages of 30yr around.

* Left the job "as is"-- obvious some areas are not protected against rain. No show for 2 days.

Dept of labor was called based on the advice of another roofing company and I halted all work until they address these issues. Thanks for the feedback so far -- it's been a good confirmation of my amateur roofing "gut check".

I'll keep the thread updated so you can see how it turns out.

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Old 10-06-2011, 09:46 PM   #18
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The 25 year bundles you are seeing are the 3 tab shingles which they are using as cap shingles.
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Old 10-07-2011, 07:13 AM   #19
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The 25 year bundles you are seeing are the 3 tab shingles which they are using as cap shingles.
He said they dropped 2 pallets of 25yr, that's a lot of capping lol. The contract called for 30yr, but 25s were cheaper and left some room for beer....
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I know the OP said a pallet but I think he meant to say a bundle.

There are no 25 year dimensional shingles.
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I know the OP said a pallet but I think he meant to say a bundle.

There are no 25 year dimensional shingles.
Yeah unless they found some abandoned lumber yard that still had 25 year dimensional shingles stored from the early 90's when they were still being packaged that way.
I don't remember the exact year they stopped making 25 years, gonna have too Google it.
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Old 10-08-2011, 07:03 AM   #22
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The 25 year bundles you are seeing are the 3 tab shingles which they are using as cap shingles.
Yea, I would agree.
I would say also everyone here is a little tough on photos, workmanship doesn't look bad. Valley looks nice, an exposed valley with peak bent in center is Cadillac. I do california cuts myself, but exposed valleys are super nice when done in copper. White drip????, maybe all interior walls are black and is meant to cordinate with that? Alot of posts on this site cross the line.
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* We did see 2 pallets (yes pallets) of 3-tab dropped off but these were wrongly delivered to our house. It sounds like they were used as starters or shingle caps. It appears now that they used about 6 bundles or so. The 3-tab is 25-yr O.C. Supreme AG and the majority is the O.C. Duration. Any reason to be concerned with that or is this just standard practice that does not effect the overall quality of the roof?

* The photos do show work in progress. We are getting white soffits, fascia and gutters to match a color scheme we're shifting to. The siding will be painted next summer to reflect this.

* Contractor admitted to the fact that the pipe collar looked short. To quote, "I'm not sure why it looks like that. One explanation is they installed it upside down. Either way, we will fix that next time we're up there and put (something) over it".

* Note: the porch always had a vent like that.

* Contractor apologized for lack of clean up. We had several handfuls of nails left around the house and in the ally. We also had one broken screen window. Soda cans and water bottles thrown on the ground.
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[quote=1dog1taco;745443]* We did see 2 pallets (yes pallets) of 3-tab dropped off but these were wrongly delivered to our house. It sounds like they were used as starters or shingle caps. It appears now that they used about 6 bundles or so. The 3-tab is 25-yr O.C. Supreme AG and the majority is the O.C. Duration. Any reason to be concerned with that or is this just standard practice that does not effect the overall quality of the roof?

The 3 tabs were probably used as starter strips around the eaves and for the ridge caps. Some perfer the use of 3 tabs because of the self sealing strips on them (and they're cheaper) which will give more adherence to what's put on top of them. You can change the exposure on the 3 tab ridge caps to give a more dimensional/thicker look like the traditional starter strip and ridge.


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