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Old 06-09-2010, 08:03 AM   #16
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Thanks for all the responses so far. Without incriminating anyone I am in the Midwest. Yes they did use a starter and they did reuse the drip edge. This is the view from our deck. I have actually roofed and/or helped do a dozen or so homes over the last many years so when I saw that the shingle’s were not overhung on the drip edge I was concerned. Not that this makes me qualified by any means but far from that. I wanted to do it myself but with two small children and everything being so busy I decided to hire it done. Plus doing some of these side jobs has shown me how corners are sometimes cut not on purposes but just because the installer (friends/myself) didn’t have the knowledge/experience. So I figured hire it done and have a flawless roof.

This area that I have pictured is also where the largest part of our higher roof drains onto and then into the gutters. So in the winter its normally going to have some ice buildup. I am concerned as to why the Ice shield is not staying down I thought for sure it would stick. The rep did say it could take up to 6 months for the shingles to lay down that seems a little extreme to me. Even when they do lay down they are going to be ” short of the drip edge’s edge.

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Old 06-10-2010, 01:24 PM   #17
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Still have yet to have anyone show up. They did call last night to say they would fix things but wont say what the plan is or timeframe. I am sure they are busy but at the sametime I want to get this settled.
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Be patient, but insist on getting a firm date at least for the appointment to be presented with a written and agreed specification for repair, upon which, both parties would agree in writing as to the method of resolving the problem to your satisfaction.

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Still have yet to have anyone show up. They did call last night to say they would fix things but wont say what the plan is or timeframe. I am sure they are busy but at the sametime I want to get this settled.
One scary thing about some contractors is after you pay, they won't honor warranties or even return phone calls. I hope things work out for you.
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Luckily i still have cash in hand!

They called last night and the plan is to take up the bottom two rows of shingels, replace the drip edge and then lift ice shireld and replace/install with a twelve inch strip. How does this fix sound? My only convern is the ice shield and how that will play out.

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Old 06-11-2010, 09:39 AM   #21
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I would push for one of their other supposed "crews". Good luck with it and I hope they fix it for you.

Usually, the bigger the company, the less likely you will get qualified people on the job.

Maybe they were just fresh across the border and just learning yet......
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Luckily i still have cash in hand!

They called last night and the plan is to take up the bottom two rows of shingels, replace the drip edge and then lift ice shireld and replace/install with a twelve inch strip. How does this fix sound? My only convern is the ice shield and how that will play out.
Ask what their warranty will be. Get it in writing from the business owner, not a sub crew.
Makes you wonder what else there is, that isn't easily seen.
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Old 06-11-2010, 12:42 PM   #23
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Let us know how it turns out.
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Well they came out today and replaced the drip edge, took off the first two rows and put down a full shingle as a starter. Not sure why they didnt just cut it...any problems with this method? The sub admitted the starter roll they use is junk but is told to use it.

They also installed a really sticky tar strip roughly 12 inches wide to cover the cut area of the ice shield/new drip edge and the first row of nail holes from the initial install. Tar strip is flush with the drip edge and goes 12 inches up from there. They didnt replace the ice shield so the second row of prior shingle nail holes are still there but they are about 15 inches from the drip edge as well as the first row but this row is covered with the tacky tar strip. The sub said the nail holes will be fine but I cant see why we went with two rows of ice shield if at 15 inches it would be fine to have nail holes in the ice shield.

I am just ready to give up. Do you all think the ice shield will leak?

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I am no expert, but I would say you will be fine with that.
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Replacing the drip edge is a step in the right direction.,Did they replace the drip edge on the entire roof?(assuming it was part of the contract).
To be able to have proper access to the drip edge.,the use of a full shingle instead of a roll starter or 3-tab I believe is a preference.I personally use either one.(roll/3-tab) The reason I don't use a arch shingle is turned upside down the exposure area of the shingle followed by a first course shingle will create a bulky look along the gutterline.The steeper the roof the more noticable it is.Provided the ice/water is installed correctly(plastic film removed during install)The warmer it gets into the season the ice/water will heat and the holes will disapear and all nails in the area of the ice/water was used will seal around the nail head.So no you shouldn't have any problems with the materials,And as far as the sub telling you the material is junk but was told to use it by his company,he would come close to being terminated by me because a (good) sub wouldn't slander/bad mouth his employer.,it says something about his integrity and loyalty not taking responsibility for his actions.The company he worked for was good
enough to provide him with work and that is how they are repaid.I apologize for giving bad advice toward the roofing company that more than likely provides quality work and giving you ammo so to speak to help the company eat your roof.(complete reroof)The sub let you down not the company. What a coward blaming his company for trusting him to do his job.
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Do you think the holes that dont have nails in them will reseal. This would be great.

Yes they are going to replace all the drip edge on the house and garage. Rain came today as they where working so they have to come back again. I looked over my contract and it states all drip edge would be replaced if needed at the agreed to fee. If they would of just done it the first time none of this would be happening. I kick myself for not speaking up but 9 guys going to town on your roof was kind of chaotic and I missed it.

True about the sub the company people have been ok but not one of them has come to look at the problem. The sub was actually not suppose to come today it was suppose to be company guy.

They also broke a few shingles working on stuff and need to come bach and fix those also.
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Yes the holes will seal up.,as long as it is within the ice/water they will as the season progresses.I understand your concern though,even if no ice/water was used just felt the holes in the felt will not seal themselves and everyday roof repairs are performed when only single shingles and tabs are replaced,with small repairs like that felt is not replaced and as long as proper nail patterns are used it won't leak,.now I am not saying that repairs don't require felt replacement,it has to be a large enough area to warrant the replacement of the felt.And during repairs you will often crack/break shingles but that would be on a much older roof.,are you sure they are broke and not ripped?That happens (ripping) during the sealing process its difficult to seperate them depending on Humidity,how much direct sunlight,lack of ventilation and most important how early you get to the jobsite before exposure to direct sunlight.Depending on your summer and winter temperatures,in the summer repairs are easy early morning and in the winter to prevent breaking shingles its easier late morning when the sun has warmed the roof up little.And as far as the company,if you live in a storm area maybe they are just swamped,did they make the oppointment?and did they call you to say they couldn't make it?If so then at least they were courteous,if not they should have.Also,the shingles that were broke/damaged did they take precautionary measures to guarantee that you will stay dry ?

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There are a good number of holes since they 6 nailed all shingles the first time. I am more concerened with leaks this winter from a ice dam.
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There are a good number of holes since they 6 nailed all shingles the first time. I am more concerened with leaks this winter from a ice dam.
I would feel comfortable telling you that by winter the nail holes will be gone in the ice/water.

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