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Old 09-09-2007, 10:33 AM   #91
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Okay, put the thesaurus away now. Wow! lol

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Old 09-09-2007, 11:05 AM   #92
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With all due respect to Ron, I really coulda, shoulda, done things a whole lot differently. I'm sure he was only trying to give me a wake up call of sorts. I hope you all can understand I am somewhat sensitive to this whole mess I have gotten myself into. Ok, maybe a bit more then somewhat.
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Doc,

I personally thank you foe bringing to light the portions of your contractual experience which may assist others in making a proper choice.

Remember the most important thing when hiring a contractor.

Money is KING!!!

He who has the money is in the position of power. It is much harder to receive satisfaction for punch list concerns whent the check has already been delivered and cashed.

This is why I do an "In Job Evaluation Inspection For Customer Satisfaction", during the job in progress if it takes more than a couple of days and also an "End Of Job Inspection Evaluation For Customer Satisfaction" immediately upon completion before I even submit my final invoice.

It is actually the "In Job" inspection process which is most beneficial, because that one allows us to take care of any concerns and issues before they advance any futher.

Only upon acceptance of the "End Of Job Inspection", after we have received acknowledgement from the homeowner, do we feel entitled to request our due payment.

If all homeowners and contractors alike would utilize this very small process, most misunderstandings and quality control issues would never wind up being the end resultant product.

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Old 09-09-2007, 07:35 PM   #94
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Ed, that was very well said. Thanks!
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Old 09-09-2007, 09:53 PM   #95
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Well, now that I think about it those are the same guide lines as OC. The nail line is placed at 6 1/8 inch. If you nailed above 6 1/4 you were in the overlap. If you nailed it at 5 3/4 inch the bottom of the nail head would show. I can see why companies like Malarkey, OC, and GAF are giving the alternative of nailing high.
Guys, I've been looking over all the posts. The nail line on these ultra shingles is at 5 3/8" which means even under the best nailing scenario the shingle above would only cover the center of the nail heads by 3/8". That's figuring for the called 5" exposure.

Overlap area starts at 5 7/8" That only leaves a 1/2" sweet spot.
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Old 09-09-2007, 10:05 PM   #96
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Yep, Timberlines have the smallest nailing area. Even though it is not a big difference from other brands, it is very noticeable when using them. I've noticed lately that Timberlines don't even show a nailing line. It's like it is barely noticeable.
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that`s enough
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Old 09-09-2007, 10:22 PM   #98
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Here is my temporary flash at the skylight. It goes under the shingles , then up and folded over the old flashing that was sticking up.
Iwas lucky to be able to slide it right under the shingles. They did not seal at all.

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you should leave that roof alone!
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I will. Now that all the nail locations have been found.
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YOU SHOULDN`T HAVE PUT THAT METAL THERE EITHER
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Why TRG? Might leak without it.
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i DOUBT IT,AND YOU`RE MESSING W/ THE EVIDENCE IF YOU GO AFTER HIM
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Thats no problem. It will slip out as easy as it went in. Just like a old sock.

Thanks for watching out for me. I am considering the options available to pursue the matter.
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It looks as though you folded that even worse looking peice of flashing backwards onto the top of the original flashing apron metal and if so, you are not allowing the water to shed directly downward. It can only run to either the left or right side.

Let the original roofer come out and install the flashing correctly. All he had to do originally was to take the peice and open up the bend just a little bit and it would have fit snugly onto the top of the shingles even though they are architectural shingles.

By the way, what is that shiny spot, which looks like sheet metal to the left of the skylight in your most recent photo?

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