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ggoodman 12-13-2012 06:48 PM

new roof on home purchase
 
So we are buying a house and after much negotiation the seller has offered to pay half so far all the bids list these types of shingles as options

I have no idea which to get We just want grey arch shingles.

TAMKO HERITAGE SERIES 50/30
TAMKO WOODGATE SERIES 50/30
LIFETIME ATLAS PINNACLE PRISTINE WITH SCOTCHGUARD
LIFETIME GAF TIMBERLINE SERIES
LIFETIME CERTAINTEED LANDMARK
LIFETIME OWENS CORNING DURATION SERIES

Any feedback is welcome all the bids are 6 k or less for complete re roof with titanium membraine, new flashing, boots , and vents.
I live in north florida a lot of sun and a fair bit of rain.

chitownken 12-13-2012 08:35 PM

Did a lot of research before I had my root replaced to find the best roofing contractor in my area. They recommended the Atlas Pinnacle Pristine but said that the GAF Timberlines were about the same. We went with the Atlas because of the copper. We have one section of roof where we have had algae issues because it never gets sun. They look nice but have only been there for a couple months. Looked at some other houses and commercial buildings where they used the Atlas shingles and they still look good after a few years.

Since those are the upper line shingles from the manufacturers, I would think that they would all be pretty close to the same. Not familiar with Tamko. What is probably most important is the quality of the installation. Could be the best shingles ever, but if poorly installed, you will have issues down the road. Check out the roofer carefully.

jagans 12-13-2012 09:22 PM

Color
 
Do not recover, tear off the existing roof down to the deck. Leaving the existing shingles will cook the new ones, and with a tear off you get to see and fix any discrepancies in the roof deck.

Since you are in Florida, color will matter. Lighter will stay cooler. Make sure you get algae resistant, but I think they all are AR today. Some have upgraded wind warranties with specific application techniques. Make sure you have a fully vented soffit that is clear, and a good ridge cap in the deal, and use American made nails, not Chinese.Oh and make sure they use the hip and ridge caps that go with the system.

Also keep a couple of extra bundles of the same lot number in a cool place in case you lose any down the road, or you have a material failure (Very Rare) You will need a couple of shingles in original condition to perform standard tests.

Im a roof consultant and I just had my roof done with Certainteed Landmark Shingles, Color, Pewter, very nice.

ggoodman 12-14-2012 02:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jagans (Post 1072690)
Do not recover, tear off the existing roof down to the deck. Leaving the existing shingles will cook the new ones, and with a tear off you get to see and fix any discrepancies in the roof deck.

Since you are in Florida, color will matter. Lighter will stay cooler. Make sure you get algae resistant, but I think they all are AR today. Some have upgraded wind warranties with specific application techniques. Make sure you have a fully vented soffit that is clear, and a good ridge cap in the deal, and use American made nails, not Chinese.Oh and make sure they use the hAip and ridge caps that go with the system.
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Also keep a couple of extra bundles of the same lot number in a cool place in case you lose any down the road, or you have a material failure (Very Rare) You will need a couple of shingles in original condition to perform standard tests.

Im a roof consultant and I just had my roof done with Certainteed Landmark Shingles, Color, Pewter, very nice.

a complete tear off and replacement is what's occurring I was just looking for shingle reviews or any on the list I should stay away from thanks

Windows on Wash 12-14-2012 06:57 AM

In order (in my opinion):

Certainteed Landmark (I prefer the Pro)
GAF Timberline
Owens Corning
Tamko
Atlas

jagans 12-14-2012 07:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ggoodman (Post 1072758)
a complete tear off and replacement is what's occurring I was just looking for shingle reviews or any on the list I should stay away from thanks

No particulars were mentioned. For instance, you never mentioned

1. Slope. You need at least 4/12 for architectural shingles, IMHO.
2. Tear off or recover.
3. Anticipated Wind Speed.
4. Deck type OSB, Plywood, Thickness.
5. Contractor: NRCA Member, with full knowledge of the Steep Roofing Manual
6. Warranty: Transferable, if Available

These all matter, albeit some more than others.

Good luck in your new Home, and Merry Christmas

HomeSealed 12-14-2012 10:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Windows on Wash (Post 1072801)
In order (in my opinion):

Certainteed Landmark (I prefer the Pro)
GAF Timberline
Owens Corning
Tamko
Atlas

I'd agree... Although I'd say that the top 3 there are very close.

jagans 12-14-2012 11:13 AM

Im an RCI Registered Roof Consultant (Ret) and I just had my roof done with Certainteed Landmark Shingles, Color, Pewter, very nice.

:laughing::laughing::laughing::laughing::laughing: :laughing:

Windows on Wash 12-14-2012 01:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jagans (Post 1072934)
Im an RCI Registered Roof Consultant (Ret) and I just had my roof done with Certainteed Landmark Shingles, Color, Pewter, very nice.

:laughing::laughing::laughing::laughing::laughing: :laughing:

That probably sums it up.

:laughing:

jagans 12-14-2012 01:31 PM

I was being facetious, Im sure there are plenty of good ones out there with the exact color you want. :)

Roofmaster417 12-24-2012 09:51 PM

I am all about Certainteed.Every shingle manufacture has quirks and they all share class action suits,material failures,discoloration and shading issues.

What you should really be thinking about is the manufacture that stands behind its product.And that is for the most part all of them.

I prefer Certainteed because they guaranty the product (H,W,L) dimensions to exceed/under no more than 1/8".Most others are 1/4" or more.In smaller sections you can adjust a shingle that has a different exposure measurement from the previous bundle.

All my roofs are installed with chalk lines ensuring an extremely straight roof.Everything is installed by a specific measurement.Tape measures don't lie,,,people do.I like a shingle that maintains a specific measurement.And IMHO that is Certainteed.

6 and 7 nail patterns should be used in high velocity wind regions.And those fasteners should be installed within each material manufactures recommended nail lines.

You could buy top of the line shingles but if your contractor of choice doesn't install them according to manufacture specifications then its money wasted.When I was contracting in Florida Atlas Pinnacle was the dominate shingle.

It really boils down to who is installing them.Having accreditations from God,NRCA,Master Elite,Shingle Master and whatever else you can grab means nothing unless you apply those techniques to every installation.I know several of these masters who do crap work but use these accreditations as a means of gaining customer confidence.Word of mouth is what you should be using to find a qualified contractor.

Someone who has first hand knowledge of business practices,ethics and integrity of a roofing contractor is priceless.Ethics and integrity are things you cannot pick up in a manual. :thumbsup:

Ask around within your church,neighborhood,friends,relatives and other associates to gain first hand account of their experience with a roofing contractor they have done business with and were satisfied with.

ggoodman 12-24-2012 10:17 PM

Thanks everyone for the hel after much research We have decided on Certainteen landmark shingles. I got four bids for service and picked the midline contractor.

As it turns out he is also the employer for a relative who I know has been doing roof work since he was 16 for this same contractor.

I have gotten a list of references and checked and every one seems quite happy.

Thanks for the responses.

Roofmaster417 12-24-2012 10:31 PM

[QUOTE=ggoodman;1079302 it turns out he is also the employer for a relative who I know has been doing roof work since he was 16 for this same contractor.Quote]

Hopefully he is older than say,,,,,,17.Hahahahahaha

ggoodman 12-24-2012 11:01 PM

Mid 30's
Now


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