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Old 10-16-2008, 05:09 PM   #1
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I need a new roof part of the roof is made of slate I hope! My question is how to know the difference, so I don't pay for something it not. If I need to spell it out could it be the dreaded "A" word. I cant afford a super fund clean up! If I post a photo can ya tell?

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that would be the best thing to do.

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Won't know until you actually post it but even if it is "a" word tiles don't sweat it too bad, there's a big difference between handling friable and non-friable. Precautions and accounting must be taken while removed but it's not like your house has to be tented, hazmat suits and inspectors running all over.

Post a pic and we'll see what you got
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Here ya go!



Its surprising that the roof does not leak where the funny ones meet the regular ones.
On the other side of the house with regular shingles that have curled, but the ones pictured are the ones that worry me.
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No matter what anyone says, you can not tell for sure from viewing the shingles to see if they contain Asbestos fiber or not.

2 small 3" diameter samles need to be taken and sent into a testng laboratory and viewed with a spectrometer to tell if it contains friable material or not.

The test only costs about $ 75.00 to have done.

On residential projects, there actually are not many regulations regarding asbestos removal, but everyone involved should still observe the proper safety protocals, such as tyvek suits and hepa filters rated to a certain mark according tho the EPA's website.

The main condition for the product, is that the land fill needs to be notified of the material and that the dumpster or dump truch needs a double plastic lining and all of the material needs to be double bagged.

The mill thicknesses of the dumpster liner and the bags need to meet certain criteria, which can be found on the EPA website.

One strong recommendation, besides not being around when the fibers are potentially becoming airbourne, is to spray a mist of water continuously from a garden hose to prohibit the materials dust from ascending into the air for everyone to breath in.

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Sorry ed, but yes, I can tell those are asbestos tiles. Torn off my fair share of them.

Don't know about where you are but around here the extra tearoff and disposal procedures aren't too terrible since it is considered non-friable. Still...

1. Must wear proper respirator when demo'ing and handling
2. Container or truck must be double wrapped in min 6mil visquene and sealed for transport. (duct tape)
3. Must be disposed of in EPA approved landfill and paperwork and receipt from said landfill
4. Dampen the shingles while removing and try not to break them up too much.

That's about it. What's funny is, after we dump it, they just tear it up bulldozing it into the pile
anyways.
They are actually a very durable roof. The ones you have up there are at least 40 years old.

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I would recomend changing the furance pipe when roofing is done. Also ice and water shield around electrical for good seal and also furance pipe. Sides and top only on furance not the bottom that is usually left exposed.
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Would it be possible to put a metal roof over the tiled roof? just leave it in place? Hummmmm
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Would it be possible to put a metal roof over the tiled roof? just leave it in place? Hummmmm
Since I don't know codes in your area I'd suggest researching your options locally on this one. No reason you can't anonymously gather information from your local officials. Then consider your options.
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A reroof is perfectly acceptable over asbestos shingles, since they will not be getting torn off putting the fibers into the air.

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I'm not sure of Fed laws but our local laws require any covering/laying over of asbestos materials be a complete encapsuling,
meaning custom bent drip edges would need to be installed on all eaves and rakes, a new under layment over top the existing tiles, etc.

Google asbestos removal and coverings for your emmidiate area and you'll find adittional info.
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So far I have called 5 roofers and e-mailed another and only one called me. He was to be here Friday evening, then Saturday afternoon, now it will be Monday morning.
Hey I know that when it gets cold roofers kick off the knee pads but ya still answer the phone don't ya?
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We chose Ondura for our roof because you do not need to remove
the old singles. Unless there a many layers. I could not deal with
the mess of taking the old ones off.
Hope this helps
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First bid in 30yer Certinteed Landmark with 30# felt, cleanup and disposal for $7,225.00
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First bid in 30yer Certinteed Landmark with 30# felt, cleanup and disposal for $7,225.00
Whats the total Square footage???

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