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gulleyj 09-02-2013 03:59 PM

new gutters: aluminum or galvanized
 
I was about to pull the trigger on some new site-formed aluminum gutters when my reliable neighbor told me that galvanized steel is the only way to go. He says his friend the building inspector told him this. Any opinions?

We're talking about less than 100 lf.

kwikfishron 09-02-2013 04:25 PM

I'd have to disagree with your friend. Seamless aluminum is the way to go, plus there are many colors to choose from. Even galvanized will rust out at some point.

joecaption 09-02-2013 05:09 PM

I agree 100%. Must be a really old inspector to suggest steel gutters.

ddawg16 09-02-2013 05:49 PM

Galvanized will eventually rust.....AL....never....

AndyWRS 09-02-2013 11:43 PM

Probably the same inspector who wrote me a correction for exposed fasteners on a Decra Tile job.

jagans 09-03-2013 11:01 AM

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Originally Posted by joecaption (Post 1237275)
I agree 100%. Must be a really old inspector to suggest steel gutters.


LOLOL Thats exactly what I was thinking Joe! Did he say that the galvanized was much better than Douglas Fir Wood Gutters? My Grandfather, (RIP) my Dad (94) and I used to replace wood gutters when I was young. Im 67

:laughing::laughing::laughing:

The only thing I would add is to use hidden hangers at no more than 24 inches on center to hang aluminum gutters, and install 4 hangers about 8 inches apart where you will rest your ladder to access the roof so the gutter does not bend when doing so. You also want to do this in a corner, and strap your ladder. I have peel and stick rubber on the back rails of my ladders where they contact the gutter to keep the ladders from slipping. Fiberglass ladders on aluminum gutters is even worse, if thats possible.

gulleyj 09-03-2013 10:53 PM

Around here they don't use hangers, just 8" spikes, which I don't like much. Would probably double the price if I insisted on them. Thanks everyone.

Fairview 09-04-2013 06:36 AM

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Originally Posted by gulleyj (Post 1237864)
Around here they don't use hangers, just 8" spikes, which I don't like much. Would probably double the price if I insisted on them. Thanks everyone.

Around here " they " would NOT be installing gutters for me and in the process I'd be telling them where they could drive their 8" spikes.

Windows on Wash 09-04-2013 07:01 AM

+1

Use the hidden hanger. They are easier to put in and more significant at the end of the day.

joecaption 09-04-2013 07:13 AM

Gutter spikes were a very bad idea in the first place!
Far easier and far better looking to use hidden hangers.
I have not even seen anyone installing steel gutters or gutter spikes for at least 20 years.
I use a ladder stand off when there's gutters so the ladder does not even touch the gutters.

jagans 09-04-2013 08:51 AM

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Originally Posted by joecaption (Post 1237913)
Gutter spikes were a very bad idea in the first place!
Far easier and far better looking to use hidden hangers.
I have not even seen anyone installing steel gutters or gutter spikes for at least 20 years.
I use a ladder stand off when there's gutters so the ladder does not even touch the gutters.

Yeah, Joe is right. The only thing the gutter spikes are good for is hanging pictures for your wife so she does not ask you to hang any more pictures. As far as the ladder standoffs, we are talking about normal humans here Joe, not a guy that own's at least two of every tool and accessory that was ever created. I keep waiting for you to be on American Pickers, so I can see your collection.

:laughing::laughing::laughing::laughing:

PatChap 09-04-2013 04:47 PM

I don't quite understand the dislike for spike and ferrule gutters, If driven into a healthy rafter tail, or 2x fascia they will hold strong for 20+ years if left untouched.
We use hangers now as they've become the norm, but properly installed spike and ferrule work just as well.

kwikfishron 09-04-2013 05:39 PM

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Originally Posted by PatChap (Post 1238104)
I don't quite understand the dislike for spike and ferrule gutters, If driven into a healthy rafter tail, or 2x fascia they will hold strong for 20+ years if left untouched.
We use hangers now as they've become the norm, but properly installed spike and ferrule work just as well.

I agree with your comments on the spikes even though I don't use them anymore either.

The holding power of a properly placed spike in unmatched.

rossfingal 09-04-2013 05:39 PM

Ain't used spikes for 30+ years!
Don't know how to use hangers?!?
Find somebody that knows how to hang gutters!

joecaption 09-04-2013 06:26 PM

I've yet to see a house with gutter spikes where there not all pulled out away from the fascia after a few years.
I've never once seen hidden hanger pull out.
A simple job like trying to remove a gutter to paint or replace a fascia is a nightmare with spikes.
They act like a log splitter going through 1X pine leaving a crack for water to get in.


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