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Old 01-04-2012, 09:53 PM   #1
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Hello all.

I had a roof installed a month ago, it was timberline 30 yr HD I paid the contractor at the end in full and later I discovered a lot of weird things..
first my roof was over 95 squares, found more then 50 nail heads
a lot of torn shingles
a lot of shingle overexposure all the roof
a lot of over stretched hip and ridge shingles
racking of shingles
improper installation of valleys
pipes not caulked
improper installation of starter
I have tons of pictures but the site doesnt let me upload more, but all shingles they look like that, but nails are out, but I hate to see the overexposure of the shingle and lines not straight

after demanding the contractor to get the issues fixed they came back 3 days
and pulled a lot of the shingles out to get the low nailing problem.
the starter was done properly, tar strip on the front.
they corrected the valleys I think.

after that I noticed in another part of my roof ( the outdoor kitchen) I still have more then 15 exposed nails, torn shingles, racking..etc etc
at this point don't know what to do..
probably the nails can be fixed but what about the overexposure also the nails below are going to be almost flush with the shingle, potential future problem. the guy says its ok..
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Old 01-04-2012, 10:11 PM   #2
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More pics?
Based on those two it looks like very sloppy work. Dunno why one would think that anyone who does installations poorly is willing or even able to come back and fix it correctly.

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site won't let me, but if you can follow this link this are the old pics most of the nails are out, but I hate the overexposure around all the house

http://www.roofing.com/forum/roof-hi...ay-t12141.html
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In my OPINION they did a real crap job and could be considered hacks.

The manufacturer may not cover your guarantee with such a flippin' hack job done.

I am sure that the bottoms of the shingles need to be about 1/8" - 1/4" below the exposure of the shingles.

And are you serious, you have 95 square of this s**t?

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Hello Andy
yes all the roof looks like that, you can see all the overexposure 1/2" some of them are flush others are like that but mostly all because they did it probably in such a hurry instead of doing it right, they took out bunch of nails, took them 2 full days..
but in other part of the roof I found more like 15 nails also a cut shingle above one of the air ducts, a hole between the valley and the ridge, no shingle ..
but the thing is they can come and fix and fix but is this right? I don't like the way the roof looks with all the crooked shingles beside nail heads are probably flush with the shingle.. you can't tell from ground but if you go up or in pictures you can see it clearly
GAF SPEC IS shingle exposure are max 5 5/8 not 5 7/8 to 6"
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All your questions have been answered on the other site? What are you looking for here? More justification that they did a poor job?

You're right, it's a terrible job and for 40kish you probably paid a legitimate contractor to do it, it's completely unacceptable.
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Paragon, you are right, I know its a bad job, for 40k, that would be having tile on.. regarding the forum, I was looking for help of regular home owners, the other site I think the majority of the members are roofers, I was trying to see what other have done in a situation like this, thanks
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Paragon, you are right, I know its a bad job, for 40k, that would be having tile on.. regarding the forum, I was looking for help of regular home owners, the other site I think the majority of the members are roofers, I was trying to see what other have done in a situation like this, thanks

Cost of living must be cheaper where you are. You are right, there are a lot of homeowners on this forum but there are also a lot of the same contractors as on the other forums who assist homeowners when they have questions.
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I think those overexposed shingles look bad, if it was your situation, whats the correct thing to do, just to fix all the exposed nails, shingles etc etc and tell the customer its just a cosmetic problem and I think the shingles are in a racking pattern
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is the first picture a racking shingle pattern
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Paragon, you are right, I know its a bad job, for 40k, that would be having tile on.. regarding the forum, I was looking for help of regular home owners, the other site I think the majority of the members are roofers, I was trying to see what other have done in a situation like this, thanks
Most people would not even notice. That is what these companies bank on. They have high dollar advertising to get in the door, high pressure sales, and cheap @rse labor.

Whatever these clowns advertise...(BBB, angies list, yellow pages, etc.) use that against them. Contact your labor department. Tell everyone you know. Just don't start making up anything. Stick with facts only and back it up with the pics.
This stuff must be reported as much as possible because those of us who do good work would like to have the work.
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thanks is this something you can leave with? it was referral too
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You'll have to caulk every nail thats visible
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Yeah, that's what I would want in a brand new roof, stop-gap measures.

Overexposure is rampant on that roof. It is improper and only way to fix it is to remove every run above the overexposed run. Those hacks need to either learn to use a gage or snap lines.

Everyone saying fix it??? C'mon, I would NEVER accept a finished product like that if it were me and there is no way to properly "fix" it.

On the plus side they probably saved three or four bundles of shingles by stretching them like that. That's an extra 5 cases of beer in their fridge.
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Yeah, that's what I would want in a brand new roof, stop-gap measures.

Overexposure is rampant on that roof. It is improper and only way to fix it is to remove every run above the overexposed run. Those hacks need to either learn to use a gage or snap lines.

Everyone saying fix it??? C'mon, I would NEVER accept a finished product like that if it were me and there is no way to properly "fix" it.

On the plus side they probably saved three or four bundles of shingles by stretching them like that. That's an extra 5 cases of beer in their fridge.
hahahahaha you are right, I was thinking the same, drunk a#$$es..
and a BIG no to caulking nails lol unless the ones on the hip

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