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Old 06-25-2009, 05:37 PM   #106
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Wow!!! What a saga! I have thoroughly enjoyed this thread from beginning to...END, where's the END!? I want more...MORE MORE MORE!!! Don't leave me hangi'n like a Harry Potter follower hungered for the next episode...LOL

I roofed a shed some two yrs ago and it was my first. I bought a book and did research online. I must say altho it took a week in July it was thrilling and fulfilling and I only wish you guys were there for me. I am now contemplating the house roof as a project to do for the wife and I feel that btwn the shed and you knowledgable folk that I CAN DO IT!!

I know a small shed is a far cry from the real thing but I am energized from this thread. This is what its all about and I commend dc for having the jimmies to go at it on his own. Of course I question why he did not purchase a guide of some sort considering all he shelled out for this and that...but hey to each his own!

That being said I have to once again thank all of you for filling this man's time with worthwhile media for a change and I look forward to the PICs and a happy ending. No word for some time will most def make me sad as I will fear the worst Mr. Potter

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Nobody's leaving you hanging! I know I haven't put as much time into my posts on here lately but it's because I've been really busy at work (actual work, not the roof). But anyways, I've got everything but the flashing done on the first side of the roof. It looks really good so far. I've got some prior engagements this weekend so I'm not sure how much I'll be able to do in the next couple days, but we'll see.

I don't really know how to put pics on here so maybe somebody could shed the light? The little "how to" thing at the top of the roofing forum only explains how to add an attachment.

As far as purchasing a guide...believe me I looked. I've got nearly all of the 1-2-3 Home Depot books and similar books like them, but they don't make a roofing book. I found one by creative homeowner, but it is poorly written and does not offer much help.

As far as doing the roof yourself....DO IT! It is hard work and is incredibly hot up there and you will sweat like no other, but it is really rewarding and you will save a ton of money doing the work yourself. Just make sure you're drinking water almost constantly.

Thanks again to everyone's input and help!

-Dave

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Old 06-25-2009, 06:29 PM   #107
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Read one of the top 2 threads in this roofing forum for instructions on inserting a photo into your post.

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Old 06-25-2009, 07:21 PM   #108
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Creative Homeowner...Just looked up and yeah that's the one I got. I thought it was OK. Some questions but I asked around (I live on a street full of handymen and contractors) and checked the web. She got me thru the shed (mimd you only a 10X12).

I know too well the water thing. JULY!!! I should have gotten stock in Gatorade that year! But def rewarding and I am in the midst of speaking to the boss about doing ours. I will run the numbers to see. We need a complete tear down, new eaves and rakes plus guttering. May be a bit too much for me.

How about a starter list of must haves so I can price...

Thanx in advance and...Git R Done...Safely
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Old 06-29-2009, 07:50 PM   #109
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Talking about books from home ripoff and MeNards.........WE did a few houses for a guy who wrote roofing books for those stores. He had to make a few adjustments after watching us do his work. You may think that these people actually do work, but they are just authors and good with words. Kind of like a salesman. They know the lingo, but don't know what the actual efforts of the job are.
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Old 07-03-2009, 12:46 AM   #110
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Read one of the top 2 threads in this roofing forum for instructions on inserting a photo into your post.

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Ed, this thread only shows how to add an attachment, with a very small photo attached (<100 KB). How do you actually add the photo directly to the post, similar to how you added the photos of the starter strips?
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I know too well the water thing. JULY!!! I should have gotten stock in Gatorade that year! But def rewarding and I am in the midst of speaking to the boss about doing ours. I will run the numbers to see. We need a complete tear down, new eaves and rakes plus guttering. May be a bit too much for me.
After the fact, I realize I probably should have replaced all of my eaves and rakes as well, but too late now. Do it at the same time though if you need it done. I'm sure it would mess everything up if you tried to replace those boards after you put new shingles one.

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How about a starter list of must haves so I can price...
Are you asking this to me specifically? I'm probably not the one to ask. Maybe one of the other guys would be able to answer this better. You'll need to give more specific info for your roof though (# of squares, eave length, etc.)
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Talking about books from home ripoff and MeNards.........WE did a few houses for a guy who wrote roofing books for those stores. He had to make a few adjustments after watching us do his work. You may think that these people actually do work, but they are just authors and good with words. Kind of like a salesman. They know the lingo, but don't know what the actual efforts of the job are.
Well said MJW...those books can give you a starting point, but they are in no way fully comprehensive, nor are they always correct.

I've learned from some guys in the electrical forum here that there are some major mistakes in the Black and Decker series on Home Wiring.
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Status Update:

The 2nd half of the roof is torn off. Actually, it's been that way since Saturday, but weather and other complications have slowed things down a bit.

This side of the roof is being a pain in the butt as far as the decking is concerned. Every single board is loose, and many are broken/badly cracked. Actually the other side was a pain too, but this side just seems to be taking me longer. If I could start this project over, I would tear off every single 1x6 plank up there and cover the whole roof with 7/16 OSB board. Then I could be sure that I would have a solid and secure foundation to lay the shingles, and I wouldn't have to worry about the boards cracking when you drive a nail into them, as the current 1x6's do.

Also it would have been cheaper and would have been much faster to apply than replacing only the bad boards with 1x6's. (8ft 1x6's are $5 each!, and I've bought over $150 worth so far) And of course I would have saved on the # of nails I'd had to buy if I'd went with the OSB board.

But oh well, you live and you learn. If I ever replace a roof on an older house again, now I'll know...
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Ed, this thread only shows how to add an attachment, with a very small photo attached (<100 KB). How do you actually add the photo directly to the post, similar to how you added the photos of the starter strips?

Either host the photo on a photo sharing site, like PhotoBucket.com and many others and then provide the forum link to the photo.

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Resize the photo on your computer.

Easiest way is to use MS Paint and you open that by Right Clicking on the photo and Click Edit.

Now you are in MS Paint with the full sized photo.

Go up to the top tool bar and find Stretch/Skew.

Decrease the percentage in the drop boxes and do a Save As. )For me, I use a 6.1 megapixel camera, so I reduce to 30%.)

Then, you have a smaller image.

Also, Save It as a JPEG instead of any of the other formats. It takes up less real estate.

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Old 07-03-2009, 07:01 AM   #115
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Most don't remove the 1x's, you usually go over them with 7/16" OSB. That is a very solid roof. We are doing a small job right now and doing that very thing. 4 layers of shingles to tear off, 1 layer 3 tab, 2 layers rolled roofing, and a layer of shakes.

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