Nail Count...

thor · 07-11-2008, 06:00 PM

Just received a proposal for a new replacement asphalt roof. Likely using Tamko Heritage 50 year. Much of the roof is pretty steep (it's a Cape Cod style home located in suburban Chicago).

The proposal specifies 4 nails per shingle. I have no point of reference on this. Does this sound right?

OldNBroken · 07-11-2008, 07:42 PM

4 nails is the minimum for any shingle. Not sure on tamko's warranty but most require six-nailed for higher wind warranty. On a steep pitch with a 50 yr shingle, as a contractor, I would six-nail it anyways and I would recommend you request that of whoever is doing your roof. Then make sure they are.

**Ed the Roofer** · 07-11-2008, 09:46 PM

If your Cape Cod is a typical 12/12, then 4 nails per shingle are the stndard specification, but you had previously mentioned in another post that you lived right off of Route 53, so it depends on how much of a Wind Tunnel affect that travels over your home, if you are really close to the expessway.

Since you have considered it, why not suggest the 6-Nail per shingle pattern for the higher wind warranty.

The labor time is not much more and instead of getting 22 Squares out of each box of coil nails, they will get around 15 squares instead, so a little more charge for the extra nails should be added.

By the way, did you check out if they use Subs are use their own employees? Or, is that not a major consideration to you?

Just for interests sake, how many squares is your roof and how many layers are being torn off and what is the price spread between the guys you met with so far?

What happened to that guy who only did GAF shingles too?

Ed

747 · 07-12-2008, 04:06 AM

I would go with the Tamko Heritage XL Ar over there 50 year shingle. Just because they have some sharp colors. Also i think 50 years is overkill. http://www.tamko.com/ProductDisplayT...1/Default.aspx

example black forest or slaystone grey or weathered stone. The XL is there 40 year shingle.

**Ed the Roofer** · 07-12-2008, 11:53 AM

I have never used the XL's because I think they look butt ugly.

Ed

thor · 07-12-2008, 12:30 PM

OldNBroken, Ed, 747 - Thanks for the feedback. I actually went to the Tamko site on installation, so I could better understand Ed's comments. While I thought we had a really steep roof, I now have a better understanding of "really steep" (21" rise over a foot!). We're closer to the 12/12 that Ed mentioned. Thanks again.

Ed - The roofing contractor does his own asphalt, but has a sub for the cooper. I don't have some of the details you asked about the job size. There's one layer of roof being removed before replacement. This is the same contractor that mostly does GAF, but has done a few Tamko. That’s why one of my earlier posts asked if experienced roofers can reliably work across vendors. Thanks.

OldNBroken · 07-12-2008, 08:23 PM

12/12 is still considered steep Thor. If I can't work on it without toeboards, we consider it a steep slope.

747 · 07-13-2008, 12:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ed the Roofer

I have never used the XL's because I think they look butt ugly.

Ed

ACTually i have never seen them on a roof. I thought they looked good on there website. So i guess i would go with the 30 or 50 Year heritage AR in the color aged wood or natural timber.

the roofing god · 07-14-2008, 11:57 PM

12 on 12 requires 6 nails per shingle,and the XL`s are butt ugly !

**Ed the Roofer** · 07-15-2008, 01:50 AM

I'll check again, but I think it requires 6 nails per shingle for a 16/12 and above. Not to say that that advise is not valid, but just what I remember the requirement being.

Ed

**AtlanticWBConst.** · 07-15-2008, 06:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ed the Roofer

I have never used the XL's because I think they look butt ugly.

Ed

They are =