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Old 04-28-2012, 04:24 PM   #1
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The only thing I can come up with is to move the opening of the valley to meet the corner of the chimney.

This is a redeck with a 7/12 pitch.

That dead pocket will be impossible to keep water tight without moving the valley..What do you think ?

Obviously this isn't a Diy project but there are some fellow knowledgable pro's whom I respect your comments so that is why I am posting.
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Pictures are so close it's hard to say. Is that just a cricket on the high side of the chimney?
Looks like your going to just have to make it wider.
It also looks like there's no propper flashing on any of that chimmney.

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Pictures are so close it's hard to say. Is that just a cricket on the high side of the chimney?
Looks like your going to just have to make it wider.
It also looks like there's no propper flashing on any of that chimmney.

I will be installing Counter on the chimney.For some reason it has a narrow cricket.Not a clue why.,As far as the framing I thought about using the existing just adding where it will meet the corner.
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Yeah - that cricket was built by a carpenter, not a roofer. It's pointless the way it's built. Cut you a couple of new triangles that bring it all the way out to the corners.
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Yeah - that cricket was built by a carpenter, not a roofer. It's pointless the way it's built. Cut you a couple of new triangles that bring it all the way out to the corners.

I take exception, I think it was a roofer trying to be a carpenter that made that cricket
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While completely ridiculous, it is more common that you would hope.

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Widen the cricket as mentioned before. Extend the valleys 3-4" past the corner as per normally done.
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Here's what you really have though. Most likely, it was a cinderblock chimney. Later, somebody wrapped it with brick. That's why you see mortar at the roof line and the shakes disappear under the brick. When you redeck, the new boards, or plywood will go under the outer layer of brick.
Just flash it normally and hope the bottom course or two of brick doesn't pop off.
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It would be best to move the valley out to meet the corner. If that is not possible, it would not be too hard to solder a copper pan in that pocket to make it water tight.

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It would be best to move the valley out to meet the corner. If that is not possible, it would not be too hard to solder a copper pan in that pocket to make it water tight.

Nice,prime example of doing it right !
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+1

Nice work.

Problem is...how many roofer know how to braze copper/metal anymore.
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Nice work.

Problem is...how many roofer know how to braze copper/metal anymore.
True,I just seen a roof done by the "Copper Smiths" in Akron that was fabulous,
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Well that's a thing of beauty dmc, hate to think what it cost though.

On a related note, reading this thread got me to pondering my situation, two chimneys and no crickets, and years of goop added by previous owner(s) kinda tell me they need something. For the roofing mavens here, how big a deal would it be to fabricate and install said cricketry? Already did the Google thing, doesn't seem too bad but usually that's an indication I am missing something. What's the one big thing I oughta know, and the biggest mistake made when doing this? That should help narrow the parameters of my "Oooops!"
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I always recommend a cricket over a pan any day.,as long as the chimney is more than a couple feet from the ridge.

I decided the best modification for this cricket is to push the ridge line up the roof the distance the existing cricket is lacking from hitting the corners.Extend the valley to meet those corners.Pushing the ridge line will help maintain the 7/12 pitch.

Taking Tinners advice I am dropping the ridge line into the chimney about 10 degrees to assist with controlled flow.

Put some counter flashing on the chimney and feel confident with the installation.

If the negative degree fails Tinner will be coming to the Ozarks.


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