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Nathan356 04-24-2013 09:05 PM

Looking for advice on roof repair
 
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I recently did an inspection of my roof from the outside and I can see several places where I have cracked tiles as well as tiles that are "lifting". Obviously the cracked tiles need to be replaced, but what about the lifting ones, what is the proper way to fix these, and how much lifting is acceptable? See attached pictures for reference. Can anyone provide a ballpark estimate for what this kind of repair would cost? It's a 1700 sq ft, single story house, simple cross gable, with part of the ceiling vaulted but everywhere there is an attic. There is no evidence of any leaking from inside the attic or inside the house. Thanks for the help!

Nathan356 04-24-2013 09:07 PM

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Few more pics of problem areas

OldNBroken 04-25-2013 12:08 AM

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AndyWRS 04-25-2013 07:07 PM

Its not lifting enough to worry about it. Not sure what product that is, i'd be conerned about break them while trying to fix what to me is not an issue. Its a wood shake look and most wood shake roofs in Cal have far more "lifting" than that.

There is no way to put a number on it sitting in a chair at the PC, you would need to know the product cost, how many are broken and factor in how much labor to charge depending on how many need replacing.

Looks familiar but the name eludes me, what product is that?

Nathan356 04-25-2013 07:23 PM

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Originally Posted by AndyWRS (Post 1167284)
Its not lifting enough to worry about it. Not sure what product that is, i'd be conerned about break them while trying to fix what to me is not an issue. Its a wood shake look and most wood shake roofs in Cal have far more "lifting" than that.

There is no way to put a number on it sitting in a chair at the PC, you would need to know the product cost, how many are broken and factor in how much labor to charge depending on how many need replacing.

Looks familiar but the name eludes me, what product is that?

Thanks for the advice Andy. I'm not quite sure what the material is either, it seems to be a tile-like composite. If anyone can tell me that would be great.

InspectorZo 04-25-2013 07:54 PM

Cemwood®
 
Hi Nathan,
I think this is a Cemwood® roof. I have not seen it in a few years and yours looks in pretty good shape.
Nonetheless, Cemwood® has had major legal problems and a class action suit was filed and won on behalf of homeowners.
If it is Cemwood®, there's plenty of money in the suit to help you replace the whole thing to a more reliable roof. The company is based in California, the suit was file here too, the lawyers are here as well. You should be able to find info on this quickly.
I'm not trying to give you false hope, I THINK THIS IS A CEMWOOD® ROOF.
Here are a couple links to help you out:
http://inspectapedia.com/roof/Cemwood_Roof.htm
http://inspectapedia.com/roof/Cemwoo...ent_Notice.pdf
http://inspectapedia.com/roof/Masonite_Lawsuit.pdf
Please post back here after you know for sure.
Good luck, :thumbsup:

InspectorZo

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Originally Posted by Nathan356 (Post 1166615)
I recently did an inspection of my roof from the outside and I can see several places where I have cracked tiles as well as tiles that are "lifting". Obviously the cracked tiles need to be replaced, but what about the lifting ones, what is the proper way to fix these, and how much lifting is acceptable? See attached pictures for reference. Can anyone provide a ballpark estimate for what this kind of repair would cost? It's a 1700 sq ft, single story house, simple cross gable, with part of the ceiling vaulted but everywhere there is an attic. There is no evidence of any leaking from inside the attic or inside the house. Thanks for the help!


AndyWRS 04-25-2013 11:21 PM

I think its a plastic, can't recall the name atm.


Mira vista. By Owens Corning. That would be my guess, unless you can slide one out and look at the back i can't be sure.

jagans 04-26-2013 09:20 AM

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Fist of all, I do not get the way they installed these tiles. Some photos look like they staggered the exposure a lot, and others appear hardle staggered at all. Since the shake like appearance stops, it would have looked a lot better to just run them straight IMHO.

I do not agree that the lifting is normal with a cementitios product. Wood, yes, as it warps. Cement, no. I think the lifting may be either inadequate space between tiles, so expansion and contraction is causing a pinch condition, or an improper type of fastener was used to install this roof. Tiles slipping out points to failed fasteners.

These appear to be quite thin for concrete tiles, and that could be the cause for breakage too.

If you do have nails backing out from thermal change repair is going to be difficult without breaking other tiles in the process. The relatively low slope is not going to help either, if a lift is used.

Repair would be similar to slate, using a slate ripper.

AndyWRS 04-26-2013 07:40 PM

In your first pic to the right of the vent pipe there is a broken roof tile. If you can take that peice down, flip it upside down and post the pic it will help identify it and determine what is right and wrong about your roof.

The lifting we are seeing is something that happens with the mira vista, it tends to curl up and is very brittle.

We are actually tearing off a Mira Vista in the next couple weeks to reroof with metal. I can't for the life of me find my pics i took of it, i will take some of the roof as we tear. You will see a very similar curling effect to what you have going on. Product identification is key to this, know what you got, and if its still available, will determine your fix.

Nathan356 04-27-2013 08:23 PM

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Originally Posted by AndyWRS (Post 1167965)
In your first pic to the right of the vent pipe there is a broken roof tile. If you can take that peice down, flip it upside down and post the pic it will help identify it and determine what is right and wrong about your roof.

The lifting we are seeing is something that happens with the mira vista, it tends to curl up and is very brittle.

We are actually tearing off a Mira Vista in the next couple weeks to reroof with metal. I can't for the life of me find my pics i took of it, i will take some of the roof as we tear. You will see a very similar curling effect to what you have going on. Product identification is key to this, know what you got, and if its still available, will determine your fix.

Ok experts, here it is! It looks like someone tried to hot glue this broken piece back together at some point :huh:.

AndyWRS 04-27-2013 09:15 PM

Well at least now you know what is isnt...Mira Vista.

I wouldnt mess with it, you very well could break more due to the uplift walking around to fix cracked ones.

If using the tool posted by Jagans to remove the broken tile, how would refasten any new pcs...you have no way to nail the back portion.

Id be interested to hear how this is done, i am sure there is a sop.

OldNBroken 04-27-2013 10:58 PM

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