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greenie12 09-17-2013 03:08 PM

Lead boot installation - roof
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We recently had a lead boot installed on our roof, but it just doesn't look right to me. We had the owner of the company come out to inspect it and he said it was installed correctly, but wouldn't tell us what the brown putty looking substance is (2nd picture). It's about 10 inches down and only leaves a nickel/dime sized opening.

If this is the vent pipe coming directly from inside the house how can it be sealed off like that?

Shouldn't the pipe be open for gases to escape or whatever it is the vent actually does?

Can I shoot water down the pipe with a hose without soaking the interior of the house?

Do I need a plumber to get into the attic to see if the pipe is correctly installed from inside?

FYI - The lead boot was replaced because the wood around it had rotted.

md2lgyk 09-17-2013 05:28 PM

That thing in your pictures is the NEW boot? I'd sure hate to see what the old one looked like. I'm actually surprised anybody uses a lead boot at all any more. And whatever that putty-looking stuff is, it shouldn't block off the pipe like that (or at all). Whole thing looks like a hack job - I see no flashing whatsoever. Call a real plumber before it rains.

oh'mike 09-17-2013 06:28 PM

I moved this to roofing for you----that is not properly installed---

joecaption 09-17-2013 06:30 PM

None of it was done right. The roofing or the lead.
I've never seen a soil pipe with all those ribs on it. I can not think of any reason for there being there.
If it had of been my own house I would have just cut it off below the roof used a hubless connector and used PVC to get rid of those ribs and a normal roof jack.

TheEplumber 09-17-2013 06:59 PM

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On a lead flashing those ribs allow for different roof pitches- kind of a hinge point.
The lead should turn into the vent to close off the gap between the pipe and the lead but it should be better than that- he's restricted the vent. If he would have use a ball-peen hammer it might have turned out better
I'm not a roofer but that's my thoughts

But why in the world would you put a lead jack on that roof? Wrong style...

tinner666 09-17-2013 07:16 PM

Perfect example of a leaker. Sorry to hear you were treated that way. :furious::censored:

Half of that collar belonged on top of the roof. No black stuff needed either.

AndyWRS 09-17-2013 08:06 PM

I am sorry, but that even makes a hack look like a pro. No way that was an actual roofing company...tell me it aint so.

greenie12 09-17-2013 09:53 PM

Yeah, it was an actual roofing company. They have 5 stars on Yelp, 5 stars on Google and an A+ BBB rating. They were also voted the 2nd best roofing company in my city.

Anyway, it doesn't seem like they are going to correct this. Should I call out another roofer or perhaps a plumber? One does the vent and one does the boot.

So frustrating.

oh'mike 09-18-2013 05:36 AM

Start with a call to a plumber---they might or might not install the boots---but will likely know a roofer that does----it is not unusual for a plumber to need to add a vent into an existing roof--

ParagonEx 09-18-2013 08:53 PM

If lead boots are recommended by some of you, what type of flashing do use around cast iron pipes?

greenie12 09-19-2013 05:39 PM

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I managed to crawl across the attic to get this picture. May not help much, but I wanted to add it anyway. Looks like the pipe goes all the way to the roof.

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joecaption 09-19-2013 05:49 PM

Sure that's the right vent?
I'm seeing a piece of PVC pipe. No lead needed.
Is that what you asked them to installed?
Should have been about $12.00 part and 15 min's work to replace. A simple DIY fix.
If the old seal was rotted away they make a super simple ring that just slips over the pipe and is bigger then the old seal.
A 5 min. job.

greenie12 09-19-2013 06:22 PM

That's the only pipe on that side of the house. It's located directly above the sinks. My concern is that the pipe stops right where you see it instead of extending a foot above the roof.

The first boot wasn't installed correctly and leaked for many years. A large chunk of roof had to be replaced due to rot. I didn't specifically ask them to install lead. That's what every single roofer said I needed and the quotes ranged from $500 - $650 for repair and installation.

joecaption 09-19-2013 06:46 PM

I would have just cut it off in the attic installed a coupling and a longer piece of PVC and a new roof jack.
Unless this was more then 1 story I would have charged about $200.00.
I've not seen anyone use a lead boot in at least 20 years.
Trying to see there logic in even trying to use lead.

TheEplumber 09-19-2013 07:08 PM

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It's installed now, didn't need to be lead- but it is what it is.
You need to open up the pipe restriction at the top as much as possible. The pipe is that size for a reason- defeats it's purpose if it is restricted.
A little patience and gentle persuasion will make it happen.
Also need to address the shingles around the base of the jack

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