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Old 12-22-2013, 01:03 PM   #1
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I am fixing to install James Hardie siding on my home. I was curious how some of you have installed the rake trim (trim between soffit and siding). I see some where it has been capped over the siding and some where it is cut close and butts to the trim. If anyone has pictures that would be great also.
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I am fixing to install James Hardie siding on my home. I was curious how some of you have installed the rake trim (trim between soffit and siding). I see some where it has been capped over the siding and some where it is cut close and butts to the trim. If anyone has pictures that would be great also.
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You can not install the trim on top of the Hardi per their site. Install the trim first and leave 1/8" gap where the siding meets it. Then it gets caulked at the end. The Hardi site has the full instructions.

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You also could cut a rabbet into the edge of the trim and let that hide the joint. We have installed some corner boards this way.
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Ok thanks I had not even thought about a rabbet joint. Do you have any pictures you could share?? I have read the James Hardie best practice manual but it seems a little unclear on the proper technique for the rake trim.
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Old 12-22-2013, 07:42 PM   #5
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We are doing a Hardi shake job now. I will try to get a few pics tomorrow.
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If a rabbit is what I assume it is, it would be difficult for someone with a lot of experience to do. Install your rake trim first then install the hardie to the rake board leaving the recommended gap and caulk.
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all that caulking just becomes a maintenance problem over the years and does little to nothing to prevent water infiltration long term imo

run the siding to a 3/4'' packing and install a wider trim piece to cover over the top edge of the siding
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Great pictures Tom!! Is this some of your work? If so you do excellent work. When you say "run the siding to a 3/4'' packing" So install first piece of trim 3/4" wide and butt siding to that and then cap over with like a 1x4 or 1x6 equivalent? Will this allow wasp and such an entry point?
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yes it's mine,and yes install the panel to a packing strip [for arguments sake]3/4''x3'' wide and cover that with a 1x4 so you create a pocket

as long as the wall is properly prepared while insects may nest in the pocket they won't be able to enter the house
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Ok thanks Tom. What type of material is the trim in the photos above? I am going to use PVC trim for mine I ran across a great deal on some made by Trex. Do you caulk the packing strip to siding before you cap over it? Would you use a pressure treated board for packing strip or just rip a piece of PVC ?
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you can caulk the siding to the packing,my philosophy is to paint all cuts on Hardie instead of caulk

the trim in the pics is mostly pine,i typically just use fir or spruce for packing

imo pvc is not always the best material when used in long lengths due to expansion/contraction issues and the limited colors it can be painted,i prefer Boral http://www.boralna.com/trim/trim.asp

i do use pvc where it's temperature sensitivity is not as much an issue like in window trim
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Nice work, Tom! Any soffit venting or is it concealed?

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it's actually behind the frieze board


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Appreciate the pictures Tom!! I will be starting on my home in a couple weeks I will try and post some pictures for everyone to see. Also which house wrap do you prefer to use the James Hardie brand or something like Tyvek ?

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