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Old 09-06-2009, 08:53 PM   #1
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hi everyone,
i've had a gutter laying in my yard for weeks that i really want to install tomorrow on my porch roof.

i've done a bit of research, and the consensus seems to be to use an iron rather than a torch, but i've not heard a very compelling reason why.

i don't really care about some minor discoloration from a torch (which would blend in with the patina?).

is it a bad idea to attempt to sweat the lap joints and other accessories using 50/50 bar sotter and a standard plumbing torch?
i've been planning on doing it this way. as long as it will be strong and not look horrible, i'm fine with it.

otherwise, what are my options for a DIY installation?

thanks a lot.

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the torch will blacken the copper before it can be soldered. Thus a poor joint. The iron heats the copper without contaminating the surface to be joined. Since others already told you the correct way, why do you still want to do it wrong?

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thanks. i want to do it "wrong" because i don't have an expensive soldering iron capable of doing gutters, and i don't have the money to hire a pro to hang them, and i don't have the time to further invest in the job. i simply want to hang a gutter to protect my porch.
perhaps i should return it and do galvanized. only reason i have the copper is because it was a "scratch and dent" and ridiculously too cheap to pass up.
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you may be able to find a friendly roofer to lend you the iron.
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hm, OK. so, you heat up the iron with the torch? then what? you sort of "drag" the sotter over the joint row by row?
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the iron fits over a torch and becomes hot much like a branding iron. You hold this on the joint to be soldered until the solder melts. Then drag along the joint with the solder behind. You use bar solder not plumbers solder. Get all you need at a roofing supply house. Many will rent you the torch also.
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solering copper gutter is an art good luck
most of the guys i know who do copper gutter use a regular propane torch
how? i dont know

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