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workman 11-28-2006 03:07 PM

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I have 10 x 30 feet flat roof. Can anyone please tell me detail how to install a new roof ? what equiment that i need. Please detail step by step thank you very much

troubleseeker 12-02-2006 11:55 PM

As a long time contractor, my opinion is that you only need one step here.. call a GOOD roofing company.Or wish you had a few years from now. A built up roof that you expect to last is not a weekend learning project or one for the cheapest guy you can find. This is an item you want to have a reputable company standing behind.

ncgrogan 12-04-2006 01:58 PM

The only low slope roof I would recommend a do it yourselfer try is a two ply modified in cold adhesive. You might be able to try a single ply but it can be a little more involved. If what I just said sounds foreign, like the guy above said find a Good roofer

knrstrt 12-26-2006 11:24 PM

hello how are yall doing? i need to how to install a torch down roof?

Talos4 12-27-2006 10:17 AM

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I have 10 x 30 feet flat roof. Can anyone please tell me detail how to install a new roof ? what equiment that i need. Please detail step by step thank you very much
1. Open the yellow pages to the roofing header
2. Locate roofing companies that specialize in commercial roofing.
3. Call several. Ask them to provide you with an estimate.
4. Come back to us and let us know what they say.
5. We'll try to steer you to the best proposal.


Seriously, Low slope roofing is not a weekend warrior project. Too many details.

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hello how are yall doing? i need to how to install a torch down roof?
Follow the steps outlined above.

You will find that many commerical roofers are getting out of torch down roofing. Insurance is killing us. There are many stories in the industry of professional roofers burning down or seriously damaging buildings while torching a roof.

The requirements (CERTA) to become insured for this work are extensive and the training involved is also extensive.

If YOU end up damaging or destroying your home while attempting this work YOUR insurance WILL NOT cover the damage.

I spent many years in the field and have pulled a draggin wagon many miles and wielded a detail torch. When my neighbor asked me to re-roof his sunroom with Modified Bitumen torch down roofing, I refused.

I re-did it with EPDM which by the way is also not a DIY project.

RooferJim 12-30-2006 04:24 PM

Flat roofing is not a DIY project neither is heart surgery, either one would be a butcher job if you dont have experience in the many tricks of the trade. Although one exception might by a peel and stick modified like Polyglass Elastoflex or GAF Liberty sheet.

RooferJim
www.jbennetteroofing.com

troubleseeker 12-30-2006 08:08 PM

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Originally Posted by knrstrt (Post 27901)
hello how are yall doing? i need to how to install a torch down roof?


See my above flat roof suggestion about calling a GOOD roofer? Multiply this by 10 and get to the phone!! So you don't want to use the phone to call a roofer...dial it anyway..but call the fire dept and give them your address and when you plan on doing this. Dry ,aged roofing decking, a torch with a two inch diameter head, and inexperience do not mix well.

Beside the obvious fire danger, this is another one of those things that is not as simple as it looks.Too much heat and the membrane will fail, too little heat and the joint will fail, it is a fine line. Sorry, but this is not a DIY learning project.:no:

seadrift 01-05-2007 11:24 PM

I too have been looking and looking for detailed information on purchasing materials and obtaining instruction for a low slope roof. For a small shed roof for a person with reasonable trade skills and I dare say roofing experience, this is not heart surgery! All I want is to purchase some materials so I can go ahead and make my own mistakes. I would hope that folks who inhabit a Do It Yourself forum who happen to be professionals might offer some advice besides "hire us." Please. I am not worried about liability or warranties or somehow destroying my home. Come on, shingles just won't work for a low slope roof. I am not overwhelmed by the concept of a two ply cold adhesive roof, but where oh where can those of us who are not roofing contractors buy the materials??

troubleseeker 01-07-2007 06:29 PM

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Originally Posted by seadrift (Post 29073)
I too have been looking and looking for detailed information on purchasing materials and obtaining instruction for a low slope roof. For a small shed roof for a person with reasonable trade skills and I dare say roofing experience, this is not heart surgery! All I want is to purchase some materials so I can go ahead and make my own mistakes. I would hope that folks who inhabit a Do It Yourself forum who happen to be professionals might offer some advice besides "hire us." Please. I am not worried about liability or warranties or somehow destroying my home. Come on, shingles just won't work for a low slope roof. I am not overwhelmed by the concept of a two ply cold adhesive roof, but where oh where can those of us who are not roofing contractors buy the materials??

Look in the phone book under roofing suppliers and call to see if they sell retail, most do, but some larger suppliers who deal mostly in commercial products, will only deal with open trade accounts.

Each manufacturer has installation manuels specific to their product which the supplier should be able to give you. Once you think you have decided on a manufacturer, you can also usually read their installation guides on their web site. I would do this before ordering the product, to be sure you are comfortable with their requirements.

As for my two suggestions in above posts to call a good roofer, I stand by them. Neither one gave any hint that they had any skills for the task at hand. Installing a flat roof that leaks is not good, but for the DIY who wanted to do torchdown...burning your house down is an entirely different matter.

AaronB 01-31-2007 12:07 PM

Talos4 speaks the truth.

Do not go for the lowest priced pickup-n-ladder "company" for your flat roofing.

Go for a multi-ply roofing system, you will save money all aound.

WECANDOIT 03-27-2007 08:28 PM

What? Are you kidding?
 
I agree with seadrift... this is a Do It Yourself Forum. One where we ask for advise and those who can help share their experiences...do.

Maybe you know a place where we can get more information or whatever, but if we wanted to hire someone to do it..we would. So either we want to do it, with some mistakes granted or we just have to do it because we cant afford it otherwise.

I tell you right now, there have been very very many people who have told me I needed a professional and I have proved them otherwise. Just because some of us need them, doesn't mean we all do.

Alot of it is just getting as much information as possible, taking your time, having patience, a few basic skills and then doing the job the best you can. The mistakes are just lessons for the future.:thumbup:

I have completed many projects ...some with acceptable results and others with professional looking results. In all I have saved thousands of dollars by doing it myself. :thumbup:

Think what I would have missed out on if I had listened to those with negativity. :icon_rolleyes:

Why not just list the dangers, potential pitfalls, and recommend the professional, then just tell us what we need to know to do the job???? :confused1:

AaronB 03-27-2007 11:41 PM

Ok, what ype of system would you like to install? What system meet your particular needs?

Talos4 03-28-2007 11:52 PM

RANT ON:eek:

After having been in the commercial roofing business for many years let me tell you WHY I recommend calling a qualified commercial roofing contractor.

Many DIYer's learn how to do things from others, True enough, I have a brother who's been an automotive mechanic for almost 30 years. I have learned alot from my little brother, and I do alot of my own repairs.

BUT, I do not have the tools or the ability to swap out an engine and tranny. Who does ? The professional.

My other little brother is an electrician also with almost 30 years in the biz, I've learned alot from him too!

But, When I wanted to upgrade my service into the house, I do not have the tools or the ability, Who does? The professional.

And before we get into I've done both of those things 3 times and it went fine argument, I'll concede everyone else has probably done them.

When it comes to roofing and especially low slope roofing, there are steep slope (shingle monkeys:wink:) roofers who don't know a lick about flat roofs, I get several calls a month from them asking to bid the flat portion of a job. WHY? Becasue they don't have the tools or the ability to do the job right AND they know it.

We're talking about roofs here. If it's not done right, it's not something you can ignore and hope it goes away.

If your car doesn't run you can use the wifes, get a lift from someone until you get it running, take the bus.

If your roof leaks, it's not just the water coming in on your head that's the problem. Furniture ruined, that new pergo floor you just installed, the new drywall on the ceiling and walls.

There are roofing contractors getting out of the torch down portion of the market because either they can't or won't get the needed insurance to do the work. IF you can find an insurer that will cover you for that work.

Seadrift say's he's not worried about liability or burning down his house of course not! He's looking to do a shed.

People wonder why we low slope guy's get defensive when asked about putting these roofs on, there's a reason, done wrong they leak or worse.

The shingle guys get piece rates for a reason, it's faster, not as labor/equipment intensive and easier to shingle (not easy, please don't misunderstand me) a roof than it is to screw one, mop one, 4ply, flash and gravel.

I try and give some experienced advise to homeowners because this is what I know. (if you knew you wouldn't be asking) If my advise is tossed aside as trolling for work so be it.

I work for a straight salary, no comission on my sales. Which by the way is on the Service end of low slope roofing, which means I've been on many, many, many homes with DIY or shingle contractor installed flat roofs that have to be torn off and replaced because they were done wrong.

It's called my $.02 worth for reason, that's about all most will pay for it and ignore it anyway.

BTW Aaron, This is why I'm not around much anymore, my asbestos certification lapsed :censored:and the flames are getting hot lately.

RANT OFF


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