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Old 06-10-2009, 05:27 PM   #16
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Icicles build up from leaf guard gutters


I've had leaf guards on the past 2 houses (12+years) & last year with the heavy snow (multiple storms) was the 1st year I had icicles
With Maple & Oak trees over the house the gutters would fill up all fall. The Oak trees still have dead leaves on it thru the winter & into the Spring. So not practical at all to go without leaf guards & try to clear the gutters in the middle of the winter. I've even topped the (2) maple trees as they were growing like telephone poles. Another oak on the front died, a large maple on one side was taken down to build the garage/addition. But we have a stream & the neighbor has let the trees grow on his side - so a long treeline

I also have (5) 55g drums that I use to collect rainwater for gardens. I have an additional 500g container that I am hoping to connect shortly. At my last house without gutters heavy rains would go into my crawlspace. At this house by using gutters properly directed my sump pump now hardly goes on.

And I have a door from the addition onto the roof
So cleaning the gutters would be fairly easy

I've seen the leaf guards that rest on the outer rim of the gutter
This allows rain to go over the gutter
Mine go in slightly & press against the inside edge of the gutter
So the rainwater goes into the gutter
And they were a bargain at .86 for a 3' section on clearance

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Old 06-10-2009, 05:55 PM   #17
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Leafguard is seamless and is about $12 a foot installed.

Most of these things are either aluminum or plastic....they will move.
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Old 06-23-2009, 04:25 PM   #18
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Well, you could always buy some cables to put on your roof that will melt the snow. Personally, my wife and I had a Heatizon Systems roof deicer installed underneath the shingles on the edge of our roof and in the valley and it has been wonderful. We used to have large icicles that would form but now they're gone. The systems are fairly reasonably priced and like I said are underneath the shingles. Good luck!
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Old 07-08-2009, 09:52 AM   #19
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Help! Help! Help!

I have hug icicle problem with leafGuard ever since I have it installed at a huge cost. The crashing down of the monstrous icicle during the nights in the mid-winter and the fear of being stabbed or crashed by it when exit the house during in the height of the winter. The water damage due the water back up as an ice wall was build up on the guard cap after long snow spell, and so on.

Does anyone have any solution to such problem?

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Old 02-18-2010, 08:07 AM   #20
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I can only echo Devo64's comments. We installed Leaf Guard last fall and that winter was far and away the worst for ice dams I've ever experienced. This year has been better, but that's more due to an abnormally low amount of snow (CT) this season.

The design is fantastic for keeping leaf and debris out and works as advertised for shedding rain. Before I continue my attic's insulation and ventilation are not an issue. Both are first rate. The problem is that the very design that makes this product so efficient at keeping the gutters clear of debris/leaves is easily filled with ice due to the freeze/thaw cycles that occur in winter. The melting snow meets a very cold object (the aluminum gutter) and in short order begins to freeze. Once that very narrow opening for water flow begins to clog it is inevitable that buildup, then backup will occur.

In my opinion the only workable solution is to purchase a roof rake and get snow cleared off about 3' up from the roof edge. Once you see icicles forget about clearing snow off your roof-you have missed your window of opportunity and it's time to start praying for an early spring!

I'm going to have to purchase a 25' extension ladder (perhaps a 30' one) as I have a high roof and wouldn't be able to use the roof rake while standing on the ground. Obviously being 20-25' up a ladder in winter isn't ideal safety conditions but given the damage ice dams can do to a home and roof I don't see any other option.

This isn't a poorly designed product; it simply is going to require taking some preventative steps if you routinely have snowy winters. One thing I have thought of is that perhaps the 'guard' portion could be attached by some kind of retaining 'clips' so that it (the guard) could be removed after all the leaves are fallen to allow a wider channel for water to flow and prevent ice formation.

Just a thought...
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Old 02-18-2010, 08:56 AM   #21
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On of the problems with anu type of guard or screen means that less sun will hit the gutters and remove/lessen the the ice. They also can hold up any drainage long enough for it to freeze.

This may be a unique situation to our climate, but snow are followed by clear weather and a lot sun, so snow and ice disappear even at oF due toe some melting of transpiration.

Nothing helps more than a snow rake to expose the lower couple of feet to the sun's rays.

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Yeah...at some point I am going to redo my gutters
I'm going with darker color gutters to capture more heat melt snow & ice faster
I'll probably end up changing out the white leaf guards for same color as the gutters
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We're going to see a high of 42 today and sun!!!! So, it's icicle melting day. I'm sitting in my sunporch listening to them thump down off the upper roof. COME ON SPRING!
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I too have had issues with ice dams on my leaf guard gutters. Last winter, we had VERY LARGE ice (close to 6 inches thick) across the back side of the house (south facing side). When it started to melt, we ended up having to have our bathroom wall gutted and replaced. We went without the upstairs bathroom in our split level home for close to a month and a half. Summer, spring, and fall are no problem at all. Then, this winter, we had our first snow fall of about 6 inches. We raked the roof and didn't have a problem. Then a few days later, we received 17 inches over the course of 2 days. Once the snow stopped, we went to rake the roof and already had about an inch of ice. All in all, we had a record 40 inches of snow during the month of December and ended up with a HUGE ice dam on the back of the house again. We had someone come out and get rid of it once and then we got 6 inches and had the same problem again.

We had someone come out to see if we needed more insulation, and he said that there isn't a problem with our insulation at all. If we did, there would have been dips of melted snow in spots and that just wasn't the case. Once we told him we had leaf guard gutters, he was convinced that was the problem.

Since I don't have the money to remove them, I am looking for a way to prevent them in the first place!! Recently, we had a little bit of melting and rain. The ice dams are gone for now, but I know that we are heading into the coldest, snowiest part of winter and don't want to have to have another room of my home remodeled because of leakage.

The attached picture is after having the 17 inches of snow. This was the first ice dam of the year that we had removed once.
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I too have had issues with ice dams on my leaf guard gutters. Last winter, we had VERY LARGE ice (close to 6 inches thick) across the back side of the house (south facing side). When it started to melt, we ended up having to have our bathroom wall gutted and replaced. We went without the upstairs bathroom in our split level home for close to a month and a half. Summer, spring, and fall are no problem at all. Then, this winter, we had our first snow fall of about 6 inches. We raked the roof and didn't have a problem. Then a few days later, we received 17 inches over the course of 2 days. Once the snow stopped, we went to rake the roof and already had about an inch of ice. All in all, we had a record 40 inches of snow during the month of December and ended up with a HUGE ice dam on the back of the house again. We had someone come out and get rid of it once and then we got 6 inches and had the same problem again.

We had someone come out to see if we needed more insulation, and he said that there isn't a problem with our insulation at all. If we did, there would have been dips of melted snow in spots and that just wasn't the case. Once we told him we had leaf guard gutters, he was convinced that was the problem.

Since I don't have the money to remove them, I am looking for a way to prevent them in the first place!! Recently, we had a little bit of melting and rain. The ice dams are gone for now, but I know that we are heading into the coldest, snowiest part of winter and don't want to have to have another room of my home remodeled because of leakage.

The attached picture is after having the 17 inches of snow. This was the first ice dam of the year that we had removed once.
Based on no issues from spring to fall, you may want to consider heat cables arranged in a way that offers enough coverage over the gutter guards without obstructing the natural flow of water.

Don't forget to run those cables inside the downspout.

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We are in Minnesota, where we can have very strange winters. Last year, we thought the problem was caused by rain, then snow, then more rain, then more snow. But, when it happened again this year and that wasn't what we had we knew there was some other problem.
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Our local city building code requires gutters if the structure has a basement. Only basmentless buildings such as storage sheds do not require gutters.
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I've been in the gutter guard industry for some time. Yes, Icicles can still build up on the guards. However, in those colder climates, the gutter companies "should" offer a heated gutter guard option. I personally know a good amount of heat gutter guard manufacturers. These are guard specifically made to prevent ice dams, icicles, and melt the ice up the roof 1-3ins. The guard heats so the water come run in. You DON'T want it melting, running down onto the walkway, and then refreezing again. Feel free to PM me if you are interested in a couple heated gutter guard companies to call

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