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Old 01-24-2013, 11:52 AM   #16
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How about patch the holes with sheet metal and screws, then
a couple coats of elastomeric roof coating. Quick, cheap and it'll
get you through for now. No need to extend anything.

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Old 01-24-2013, 11:56 AM   #17
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Holes? There arent any holes. Its just rusty. and even doing that much would still require a contractor.
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Old 01-24-2013, 12:07 PM   #18
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No contractor required. Pour it on and spread with a 3/4" nap roller.
If you can't DIY then you should be able to find a handyman
type to do it for you.
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A contractor should do what you request---or tell you why a different method is better--

That is called the 'scope of work' ---

If you have the 'scope of work' laid out on paper---then different bids will be for the same work.

Work up your 'scope of work' and then call in other contractors----for a bid.

When comparing bids look at the scope of work in their contract----if it's not there--don't expect anything more.

With that said--I frequently do elaborate jobs on nothing more than a hand shake---
Trust and familiarity with a craftsmans skills is worth as much as a well written contract.

Even in these tough times--I turn down more work than I take---Someone that asks for a 'breakdown' of costs would never hear from me again----don't scare off the good contractors with silly requests---

you would be kicked out of that restaurant if you asked to provide your own bacon and eggs----

Or how much is the labor part of your breakfast.
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Old 01-24-2013, 01:19 PM   #20
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I had that exact thing happen to me. The customers book keeper said I was taking advantage of him and charging to much and had to many people on the job.
He went behind my back and went to my supplyer and asked to see my invoices for materials.
The sad part is he was what I thought was a friend and was giving him the materials for cost because he was trying to start up a resturant and I was trying to help him out.
I only had two people on the job. Come to find out the lady that was complaining son inlaw had lost the job and she was trying to get it back. And it worked. I quit and he took over. He marked his materials up 25%, had 6 men on the job, and on top of his bill charged 10% more for a contractors fee.
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Old 01-24-2013, 02:14 PM   #21
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i understand where you're coming from, Mike. But regardless of where the price comes from or who buys what, the contractor should do what i want him to do, or pass on the job, right? If i want something done a certain way, the man i pay to do it should do it that way. At the very least he should seal the edges and extend my vent stack so that it comes above the new roof level. As it is right now, the cap on top of the vent stack only sit about an inch above roof level. If he doesnt extend it and puts an inch thick board on the roof then covers that with metal panels, it will cover the vent. Im sorry but that is unacceptable to me. My dad says its not a big deal and we can extend it ourselves but if im paying this guy to do the job, i shouldnt have to do any of it myself. He should do what i want him to do, and what i am paying him to do.
I think your problem is that you dont know what you need to do. You need a sound specification so you can obtain bids based on that specification. SInce you cannot even get up there to take pictures, or show us the structural makeup of your roof, we cant help you with a solid spec.

A Proposal is not a specification. It is a proposal to do what a vendor feels comfortable with. If hes a metal guy he feels comfortable bidding metal, if hes a rubber guy hes good with that etc. etc. A trailer does not spur much interest in most legitimate contractors, due to its size. The logistics are the same for a 200 square job.

If you can get up some pictures maybe we can help if not you are wasting everyones time, including your own.
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youre right i dont know what needs to be done to make the roof safe. But i do know that you are not supposed to cover a vent, and you are supposed to seal the edges. That is why this is the only part of this trailer i am not doing DIY, because i dont have faith in my capabilities when it comes to the roof. To me the job of "replace the roof" would include everything needed to make it a solid roof. Not do it half assed so that it creates more problems later on down the road. If it was your roof, would you be ok with a contractor blocking your vents?

Thanks for your time.
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No, but I would have a specification to bid on, not depend on a proposal from an unknown entity. The key here is that you are assuming whoever comes to your home is a valid contractor. Maybe they are not.
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i checked him out. i looked him up on angie's list, on the BBB, pissedconsumer.com, and read through his website before i ever called him. i guess i need to write up exactly what needs to be done instead of depending on the "pro" to know what to do. Or just go one better and have a solid roof built over top of the trailer and be done with it. i guess if critters get up under there i can call an exterminator. This is why i dislike using contractors. I dont like someone telling me "im going to do this and this and you dont get a sayso in it, and you have to pay me this much money." I want to be able to agree or disagree on certain parts of the procedure.
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For example, when i had the home moved and leveled and tied down, i hired a pro. I told them i wanted the bid written up and broken down. They didnt break down the price, but they did list everything they intended to do, such as reinstall skirting, tie it down, unblock it, reblock it using new blocks, level the lot, etc etc. I was able to walk through it with the book keeper and tell her i only needed them to unblock, transport, reblock with the old blocks but new wood buffers, and tie down. It dropped the price considerably, even though they did not tell me specifically what each item would cost. THat is what im talking about, i dont want to hire someone to do a job and pay money for them to do things they dont necessarily need to do. I also dont want them to not do something that needs to be done. i want a detailed bid so that i can negotiate with them, and i dont want answers that start with "Um, well, huh, i guess maybe.." that right there is enough for me to say no. You contractors seriously would not give a detailed bid to a customer?
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Hmmm...freestanding gable roof 14 x 48. You could reroof that
trailer half a dozen times for what that'll cost.

You need to call more roofers until you find one you're
comfortable with.

We're not all out to screw you.
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Detailed bid complete with work scope and specifications...
yes. If asked to break down all the labor and materials...I
politely refuse the job and walk away.
A job like that is just a pita waiting to happen.
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There's a big difference between a detailed bid and breaking down all the costs. It's very insulting to any good reputable contractor to be treated like a criminal suspect and, honestly, no good contractor will want to do business with a customer with that mindset. I know I never will.

I have been doing this for thirty years and know what a fair price is to do a specific job. To have someone not respect that is extremely insulting.

There is a thing called due diligence in finding a trustworthy contractor, and there is a thing called "due...it yourself, because I'm not going to waste my time with you"

As said before, find someone you are comfortable with who can give you your appropriate options and let them do their job.
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12penny - itll cost me $4k completely installed.

Thanks for all of the answers everyone. im gonna call a few more contractors for quotes and if they all want to do the same thing, ill do the exterior roof. i just have higher standards for work done for me than most people do i suppose.
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Good luck. Hope it works out for you.

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