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Old 09-03-2013, 11:42 AM   #1
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I want board and batten siding and plan on using 3/8 treated composite (smartside) siding over foam sheathing. If I nail the battens to this, I can hit solid wood on top and bottom plates, but do you think in between will spiral shank nails hit enough to hold and not pop loose?


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are you using wood sheathing or just the foam sheathing to cover the wall studs?

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If I nail the battens to this, I can hit solid wood on top and bottom plates, but do you think in between will nails hit enough to hold and not pop loose?
The battens need to hit the studs so whether you go 16" or 24" oc will be dictated by how the wall was framed.
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I know it will work if I use osb sheathing behind the siding instead of foam, but I would really like the little extra r-value plus I am looking at quiet brace sheathing for sound proofing.
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You are correct that is what I'm saying especially if the smartside is only 3/8. The 3/8" is used for soffit and not siding btw.

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why arent you using a rain screen as well over top of the foam.. youll have an air space for water to drain down the wall plus the vertical strapping will be nailed solid through the foam into the studs.. then nail the siding to the furring strips
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I am not a siding expert, but it is my opinion that you should always use a system that sheds water. Board and Batten is commonly used on barns and outbuildings that are often built on grade beams, or in pole barn fashion where a little moisture intrusion now and then is acceptable. Will this system have secondary moisture protection like house wrap? If I was doing this i think I would picture frame, then run 2 x 2 (Nominal) horizontal Pressure treated nailers to provide good anchorage for the vertical siding. Install rigid Iso foam between the nailers that are fastened to the studs, then house wrap then your B&B. Pop chalk lines at your nailers before you install siding.
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why arent you using a rain screen as well over top of the foam.. youll have an air space for water to drain down the wall plus the vertical strapping will be nailed solid through the foam into the studs.. then nail the siding to the furring strips
Winner right here.

The foam is fine and as long as you hit the wall framing, you are good. Be sure to use a foam with a good compressive strength.

Be sure to apply a house wrap as well as bug screening on the top and bottoms.
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for vertical siding ill run the rain screen furring strips diagonally,, where some will do it horizontal.. if you run it horizontal youll create a ledge that water sits on and doesnt drain.. diagnal allows for drainage
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for vertical siding ill run the rain screen furring strips diagonally,, where some will do it horizontal.. if you run it horizontal youll create a ledge that water sits on and doesnt drain.. diagnal allows for drainage
Even with Tyvec under the siding? seems like it would be hard to hit the nailers on an angle like that but I believe you, I just would not do it. I would probably use D226 type 1 felt instead of Tyvec in this situation though.
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hows it hard to hit the nailers.. you can see exactly where its at as you work your way along the wall putting up siding
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hows it hard to hit the nailers.. you can see exactly where its at as you work your way along the wall putting up siding
There is secondary moisture protection over the horizontal nailers with foam in between them right? Maybe I'm confused. Ive been getting dizzy when I stand up fast.
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Negative.

Moisture protection and/or foam are beneath the nailers James.

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How thick is the siding; 5/8"? How long are the fasteners? How much rainfall annually for your location? http://www.srh.noaa.gov/images/ffc/gapcpn.gif

A draining housewrap may suffice. Page 6; https://docs.google.com/viewer?a=v&q...RvUBSlz4b5thmA

Especially with foamboard (faced ?) to stop any south-facing moisture drives protecting the wood frame wall. Any overhangs on the roof to protect the walls/windows from rain?

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