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This is a how to site, not a why I hate this product site

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#1 ·
I just wanted to post a quick reminder here. This is a "how to do it yourself" site and not a "why I hate this product" site. If you have a question about a product or need help with it please post about it. If your here just to make some sort of public statement about a product or company then this is not the place for you.


Thanks.
 
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konecto flooring? behr paints? the good, the bad and the just plain don't buy it!??
i see your point Nathan, however, it seems some of those threads have the highest numbers of readers and also draw in new members....
oh wait, that's how you guys got stuck with me....
perhaps another new section on 'product awareness' or something would be better than banning the negatives?

DM
 
#4 ·
Isn't that part of a DIY site?
"I used this product & had this problem"
Now maybe its because the DIY didn't do a proper install
But when I go to a car site I want to know what cars have problems

I guess it's different if you have people coming on to try to sell something or bash the competitor

I know when I'm looking for something I read up on what other people did. I might have Toto toilets if I found this site a few years ago
 
#5 ·
OK, I wrote this late last night and I think I need to clarify what I'm talking about here. Sorry if I wasn't clear.

Isn't that part of a DIY site?
"I used this product & had this problem"
Yes, and I have no problem with a member of this site telling us what he thinks about a product both Good and Bad. In fact, on some of our sites (like www.WoodworkingTalk.com) we even have a special forum for product reviews. The problem is not established members who tell us what they think about a product, it's a few people who have joined this site and seem to want to do nothing but bash a product or company.

I guess it's different if you have people coming on to try to sell something or bash the competitor
Yup, this is what I'm talking about. For example, I can look at one thread (and there are a few like this) and see someone with over 40 posts. When I look at their posting history every single post they have made has been a negative comment about one particular product. Do we even know if they own the product or installed it right? It's hard to tell and I'm not sure it's fair to the company to allow this to take place.

This is kind of a gray area I know but this is my thinking. Let me know if this doesn't make sense because I'm thinking it through as I type.

  • If you're a new member and join the site to do nothing but bash a company or product you have no place here.
  • If you're a new member and come here because your having problems with a product and need help fixing it post about it and let's see if we can help.
  • If your an established member (with some posting history) and you want to give a product review then by all means do so. But give your review and comments about the product and move on. Don't make this site your personal soap box.
People get pissed when they feel they have been wronged and sometimes they go to far. If you need help fixing a problem that's really what this site is about. Your sole purpose for joining this site should not be to tell everyone why you hate a product.

Thoughts?
 
#10 ·
That makes sense
I've seen similar on other sites where people sign up to promote products. Many of the sites do not allow it. And it does skew peoples perceptions if they see all these posts about how great or how bad something is
I have a problem with a product my 1st thought is did I install it correctly, so then I go read the directions :wink: :laughing:

I do see threads where it seems to go back & forth
Not really productive for anyone
Thanks for the clarification & modification :thumbsup:
or is that Adminification ?
 
#13 ·
Negative comments are sometimes useful, for example I'm interested in why the poster of the thread (I assume) we are referencing has had such a different experience than my own with a similar product, and when I look at the pictures he has posted I think I know why, so his comments were useful to me.

How to draw the line? In the end IMO that's up to each site's administrator - its their sandbox.
 
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I know I'm a newbie but I just wanted to say thanks for even having this type of forum. It helps to find out information from professionals so I can have an educated conversation with my construction company.

I love learning about the details of how to do things so I can either attempt the task myself or at least feel like I know what I am talking about and getting a quality job done.
Thanks
 
#16 ·
They don't allow companies to come on this site and self promote but I do believe that companies have the right to respond to claims about their products. I think it's only fair. The problem is when it turns into a never ending cycle. The pissed off customer posts, the company responds, the customer responds... and around we go. Somehow we need to let people make a comment, let a company respond and then either agree to disagree or let the company help fix the problem.
 
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I enjoy the forum and always gain new knowledge and insights about topics that are new to me, and even to topics of which I am knowledgeable.

As a newbie, I am often surprised by critical or sarcastic comments in response to someone who has attempted to post a helpful answer to another poster's question.

So, not only should we not slam other products, perhaps we should not slam other well-intentioned forum members. Or will I have a different opinion about this after I have posted 2000 comments and have gained more insight about the forum :)
 
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nearlycivil, is there a problem with resurrecting an old thread? Especially when you see several threads with the same topic when you are searching? Just asking, not trying to get :eek:fftopic: One of the major reading exercises here, for me anyway, is to glean information about specific products before I hand over my life savings.
 
#25 ·
I like to read the good, the bad and the ugly. It is up to the administrator, I am digging in his cat box.
 
#26 ·
A year late but this is still a how to site, not a "Call a professional site." There are professionals here whose stock response to a DIYer is, "Call a professional." Of course this person wants people to believe his life's work is superior to anything a DIYer can imagine and so fills the internet relentlessly with his special, unobtainable, knowledge and criticism. He disparages not just the DIYer but anyone of his comrades who offer a practical, nonprofessional solution.
Frankly these people, and there a lot of them here on this DIY site, need to shut up.
 
#27 ·
A year late but this is still a how to site, not a "Call a professional site." There are professionals here whose stock response to a DIYer is, "Call a professional." Of course this person wants people to believe his life's work is superior to anything a DIYer can imagine and so fills the internet relentlessly with his special, unobtainable, knowledge and criticism. He disparages not just the DIYer but anyone of his comrades who offer a practical, nonprofessional solution.
Frankly these people, and there a lot of them here on this DIY site, need to shut up.
PUTTSTER....Thank you for your puttering....

I think you are DEAD wrong......and others complaining should shut up..

Maybe someone should thank the pro's here that basically offer their expertise for nothing,,,,,I know they help me.
 
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