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Old 06-06-2013, 03:39 AM   #1
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Just had a GAF Timberline roof installed and was expecting to have drip edge installed. When I asked the contractor, where's the drip edge, he said it's not necessary on an asphalt roof. He only uses it on cedar roofs.

I said it's in the contract and he said the contract says "if necessary", and according to him it wasn't necessary.

Was I ripped off and what will happen without drip edge?

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Old 06-06-2013, 04:16 AM   #2
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yes. I have never heard of a new roof being put on without new apron or drip edge. Now concerning only cedar roofs. Absolute 100 percent crap.

What will happen. Water might get under beginning of sheathing.

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Total BS.
I will not even do a roof unless there going to let me use drip cap on all exposed edges.
With that vage a wording in the contract I to not see where you have any recource.
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Plenty of 'contractors' go about doing things they truly believe to be true. They're sometimes quite wrong. The vendors usually explain how their materials are to be used and often post videos about it on their websites. It helps to insist products be installed as per manufacturer's recommendations, along with local building code requirements.

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And that, my friend, is why you never, never, never use verbiage in a construction contract that asks another question. You will NEVER see

As Required...................By who?
As Necessary.................According to whom?
As indicated...................By what?

In any specification I write, period.

I bet that this was a proposal by the roofer turned into a contract.

Wrong. A proposal is not a contract. It is a non specific, vague outline at best. A Form of Agreement is a Contract, and it is based on the Specifications and Drawings, which should be very specific to your project.
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A proposal is not a contract. It is a non specific, vague outline at best. A Form of Agreement is a Contract, and it is based on the Specifications and Drawings, which should be very specific to your project.
Yup, sadly since most homeowners don't have this kind of work done more than once or twice in the whole lives they don't know better. Then there's the contractors that are either clueless about it, or do know better and deliberately mislead the customers about it.

Hard to know which you're dealing with, and even harder because you're only doing it once and they do it every day.
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The beauty of 'the fine print'........

In my area (which does not get much rain), it's required by the building inspector.

In most areas a new roof also requires a permit and inspections. If you pulled permits, it may not pass.
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I cannot tell you how many times I have been called and asked to prepare a Project Manual for a residential project, and invariably, when they hear the numbers they say " thank you very much, Ill talk to my wife about it."

A couple of times the caller was close by so I told them I would stop by and write an outline spec for them. When they asked how much it would cost I said: Well, you are close, and it sounds like you need help, how does $350 sound?

" Holy Cow, I thought it would be like 75 dollars," Thanks anyway, Ill just pick a roofer.

" OK, thats fine with me, because it costs me 75 dollars just to fill the gas tank of my truck", and the number I gave you was way too low for me to make any money anyway"

Now this is for homes that cost 24 to 28K to reroof.

I did get a call back from one of the guys that I made this offer to, and he told me that he has been kicking himself in the axe ever since he rejected my offer for not having me write the spec and inspect his roof during the work. He has leaks all over the place and could I please come out and take a look?

"Sure, its $165/hr Portal to Portal"

"No problem, when can you get here"

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Sorry, I did not even answer your question OP.

Q: How important is drip edge?

A: Very.
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I said it's in the contract and he said the contract says "if necessary", and according to him it wasn't necessary.
So why bother even putting the "If necessary statement" in the contract if he says its not necessary. He is cutting corners...and sadly if he is cutting out the D/E i would wager there are installation issues also.

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If I insist that I want the drip edge installed, even though the new roof is already done, can it be added without ruining the rest of the roofing job? Is it worth it at this point?
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So why bother even putting the "If necessary statement" in the contract if he says its not necessary. He is cutting corners...and sadly if he is cutting out the D/E i would wager there are instalaltion issues also.
I re-read the contract and it actually says "where necessary". I told them "where" and "if" are totally different statements. "Where" necessary obviously means it's necessary on all edges. He's trying to convince me that nobody around here gets that done. That's because most people aren't educated consumers and just take the contractor's word without doing their own research. They probably think I'm being picky, but I'm actually more educated on the subject than they are and I'm not letting them get away with it.

See my other post about how they cut corners on the ridge cap shingle installation too!
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OK, here goes.

many roofs are installed without roof edge. it can be done and is still being done in the US.

Would I do it? No, but then again I like the look of it on the roof edge.

As far as installing it afterword, depends on whether the shingles have sealed down it will be somewhat a pain but can be done.

In case you want to know, I have installed several thousands of squares of shingles. I was a roofing contractor in my younger days.

If drip edged is not used the shingles better overhang the edge of the roof.
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You have two options:

Have him install the DE or have him refund the cost of the DE + installation.

The costs are very little, it would be better to have him install it.

I agree with Framer52, i see it here also but it is not as common as it used to be.
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How steep is your roof? drip offers little more than aesthetics at 8/12+. Lower pitch then that its very important.

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