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Old 12-22-2013, 09:28 AM   #1
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How can I fix the rotten T-111 above shingles and under gutter?


I have rotten T-111 siding over the roof (see picture) and under a gutter. I don't want to replace two entire sheets of T-111; that would be really expensive. Any ideas on how to repair?
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Old 12-22-2013, 09:37 AM   #2
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There are 2 separate issues there,the first and most important is the lack of a ''kick out'' diverter right where the roof starts.It's vital that water that the step flashing is diverting exits before it gets behind the wall below

Along the roof line a composite board or pvc can be installed,after cutting and flashing,I would make it removable to make roof work easier in the future.

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I'm trying to prevent water from getting into the wall. Are you suggesting that I put some trim on top of the siding above the roof? Also, what can I do about the rotten T-111 under the gutter.

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What Tom is saying is to cut out all of the rot up the roof line, say for example 6 1/2" and then replace that siding with a trim board.
The roof to wall flashing should look like this.



When your done it will look similar to this.



Also notice how the siding/trim is held up off of the roof and you can see the flashing. This is an important detail so the water can shed properly.
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Also that gutter never should have been installed tight to the wall like that.
That's a sure way to trap water and rot out the wall.
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Old 12-22-2013, 04:25 PM   #6
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I'd add another flashing over the new board, holding the T1 up 1/4-5/8" above that for water/drainage, not caulk the joint as pictured. I think you would be trapping the moisture behind the siding, forcing it to wet the house wrap and eventually leak there. APA recommends sealing the newly cut end grain or a compatible waterproof coating if staining.

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Like this.

http://www.plasticomponents.com/prod...7&SubCatId=104
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T111 expensive? Actually it's about the least expensive siding product on the market.
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More like this, Joe; http://www.homedepot.com/p/Construct...34G/202221083#

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To replace both sheets of T111, someone would have to remove the window frames (if they come off) and take off the trim boards and then cut both new pieces exactly right, then somehow slide them into place so they dovetail with the other sheets. I don't even know if that's possible.
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Mark, the answers are for just cutting enough siding off the bottom of the sheets where it meets the roof- to add some trim board with a gap under it and a small gap over the trim to the existing (but now shorter in length) siding. Pull the 1x2 (horiz. trim covering z-metal flashing), add wood plates on the roof to set saw depth and height required- do not remove the step flashing in the roofing courses, add the top flashing starting at the top of roof to lap each flash piece 6" for water prevention, add the new trim board after using sticky window flash behind board first- bottom edge flush with bottom of board.

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PS. I have replaced many sheets after house/apts. were sided, only problem is texture/groove/thickness match.
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Maybe I should have both sheets of T-111 replaced. Is that practical, or would the average contractor have a hard time doing it right (making sure everything was waterproof and the vertical cuts matched, etc.)?
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Maybe I should have both sheets of T-111 replaced.
looks to me that you don't understand the proper solution that has been given.
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I understand that I can put on a patch (a piece of trim) that I would flash at the top with a backsplash to keep the water away from the wall. Also, the trim would need flashing under it. If the rot is more extensive that just at the top of the roof, though, I might have to replace entire sheets.
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If I were the contractor doing this job, I would simply make a template out of the old pieces to ensure a near perfect fit.

Current price of T-111 at Lowes is $30 a sheet and perhaps a local supplier has it for less.
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