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Old 08-12-2013, 03:29 PM   #1
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Getting a new garage built ( in Mn) and need to make some decisions.
Is Smart Side better than Hardi board?
My gut feeling is a cement board would be more long term durable than an engineered fiber board- looking for some experience on this-
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Well Brush I spent a good part of the 80's installing LP Siding and half of the 90's hauling it to the dump after the Class action settled.

LP re-branded their product and now call it "Smart Side". I'm sure they made some changes but it looks the same to me. Just my 2 cents.

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Thanks Kwik- Asked the contractor same thing- his reply..

The Smartside is a much better product and completely water resisitant. It's not fiber board - it's OSB - oriented strand board - it' resin treated to never take on moisture - I can get you a sample and you can soak it in a pail for a week if you'd like - Cement siding never get's treated or painted on the back side and it still get's wet there - condensation and wind blown rain.

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Thanks Kwik- Asked the contractor same thing- his reply..

The Smartside is a much better product and completely water resisitant. It's not fiber board - it's OSB - oriented strand board - it' resin treated to never take on moisture - I can get you a sample and you can soak it in a pail for a week if you'd like - Cement siding never get's treated or painted on the back side and it still get's wet there - condensation and wind blown rain.

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Hardie hit the market about the same time as LP was failing and was marketed as the new builders panel. I was skeptical and put a ragged edge piece of Hardie in a bucket of water and 6 months later it was looked the same as the day I put it in.

I'm not sure what LP did to improve their product but at the end of the day it's still OSB so I guess it comes down to how much faith you have in the resins. I guess I kind of have a bias attitude toward LP because for years before any settlements my customers were calling me with their LP siding problems since I was the one that sold them on it to begin with. Burn me once..........

I'm not a big fan of Hardie Plank either (just aesthetics issues) but between the two it would be fiber cement for me.
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Just watched a bunch of vids and it does seem that the Smart Side is not the same as the old LP products.
Check this out..'

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Just watched a bunch of vids and it does seem that the Smart Side is not the same as the old LP products.
Check this out..'

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Out of the millions of miles that LP has sold they never had one moister claim
Then what did they shell out $486,000,000 in claims for? That kid should do his homework before including such statements in his pitch.

I do think the LP looks better than the Hardie. Keep it well painted and you should be fine.

LP did always blame the installers and lack of homeowner maintenance as the problem with their product.
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I think he means with this product.
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I think he means with this product.
He didn't say "Smart Side" he said "LP". LP is a much bigger word(s).

That aside I tend to forget about the regional thing. All of my experiences with LP were on the Pac NW Coast where for at least 3 months a year everything is wet and never gets a chance to completely dry out.
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And that guy is from here- and the hail thing is a real issue. Originally I was going to go with vinyl , Old house (1918) getting a POS garage replaced. But now considering the upgrade.
Sounds like neither is perfect- pros and con's of both. Hoping for some more input of those who have dealt with this product itself.
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Hoping for some more input of those who have dealt with this product itself.
Then I'll say no more other than I'll make sure I have a piece of smart side in my hand tomorrow to begin the bucket test.

Just have to do it now.

EDIT: I'll be sure to throw a piece of Hardie in the stew too.
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LOL- You do the test- and keep me informed of the results- not getting the ga-rage done until spring!
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LOL- You do the test- and keep me informed of the results- not getting the ga-rage done until spring!
The stew is cooking Brush...Smart Side was 3/8" going in...Will report back in a week.
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they'll both turn to mush if left in the water.

they both have their own pros and cons. smart side is easier to install if you havent done siding before.. just get hte first course perfectly level and set each row on top as it has the plastic strip on the back.. harti has to installed by a gauge block or to a chalk line every course to keep even spacings
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they'll both turn to mush if left in the water.

they both have their own pros and cons. smart side is easier to install if you havent done siding before.. just get hte first course perfectly level and set each row on top as it has the plastic strip on the back.. harti has to installed by a gauge block or to a chalk line every course to keep even spacings
I have no doubt that the Smart Side will turn to mush in short order. It grew a 64th in just a day.

I've done the Hardie test before (15 years ago) and after 6 months it looked the same.

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