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Old 08-13-2012, 09:02 PM   #1
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Hi all,

my home is 12 years old and I was very very surprised to find that the gutters do not have flashing
I have been explained by locals that if you want it, you have to ask to the company making the roof as it is not standard
Well, I do not want to debate whether this is right or not, but here is my problem.

As you can imagine, rain is dripping full time all over between the gutter and the fascia.
I took a ladder and went up to the garage, pictures enclose speak for themselves.

In addition to what you see, the gutters are not leveled, so my idea is to remove them, provide the right leveling and definitely use screws and not spikes.

The first problem I encountered is to find away to pull out the spikes, they are really tough and I have no point that I can use to force them out.

Can you provide me any tip?

Secondly, I do not want to lift the shingles, roof looks still good to me but I got the impression that lifting them wouldn't be a good thing.

Maybe is possible to just push the flashing under the shingles?

Are there alternative to flashing? I mean silicon would be an option??

Thank you guys

Alex
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i think you could slide some metal under the shingles,but that roof looks like it's ready for replacement

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I agree that roof is due to be replaced. Notice all the curled up shingles.
Gutters do not get flashed, and there not installed level.
What your missing is called drip cap.
It would be far easyer to install when the roofing is replaced since it also need to be run up the rakes on the end of the house.

It's to help protect the ends of the sheathing and to try and get the water to drip out away from the fachias.

Gutters need to be installed at a slight angle toward the down spout, if there's two down spouts the fastner gets install in the middle first and the left and right sides get lightly pulled down to make a slope. It does not take much.
That's some funky looking hangers you have there. Any new style hidden hangers like that will have hex head screws not spikes.
One way to get them off is to just use a sawsall to cut the heads off then slide the whole gutter off. Once off cut the rest off and drive in whats left.
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The roof is not bad as it looks, it will stay there for at least another 3 years.

There is no doubt that the best would be to do it once I will replace the roof, but in the meantime, I'd go for sliding some metal under the shingles, or perhaps any other material??

There are two ways I can do it:

1) Pull out the gutter, which means the remove bloody spikes first
2) Cut the metal flashing in correspondence of any gutter hanger and slide it piece by piece.

If I slide the metal under the shingles, do I have to nail it or shall I just leave it there? Nailing would imply to lift the shingles and I do not want to do it, too fragile.

Thanks guys
Alex

BTW: Would silicon be an option, we are talking about a temporary solution before replacing the roof....

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i have removed many gutters with these hangers. they are a pain, but not impossible.
either use the claws of a good framing hammer to get between the fascia and hanger,
or use two hammers. put the claws on the spikes head for leverage, then hit the top of hammer #1 with hammer #2 pulling the nail out.

caulking could work for a temperary fix, however it's not the preferred way.
you could get some OD drip edge and slide it under the shingles, then tack it into place from the face of the drip.
i wouldnt lift or touch any shingles if at all possible. they look ready to break under any stress
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Hi,

I won't touch the shingles, they would brake for sure.

When you say OD drip edge, what does OD stand for?

Many thanks for the tip regarding the spikes, I will try one and see the effect.

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I won't touch the shingles, they would brake for sure

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then they are as bad as they look
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then they are as bad as they look
Let's say that I do not want to take unnecessary risks

Anybody can tell me what does OD stand for?

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Basically its wide drip edge. It looks like 2" would be enough to cover the back of the gutter.
Like i said, you could tack it into place using self tapping screws thru the face of the drip edge.
This way there is no need to lift any shingles, and water will go into the gutter rather than behind.
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Any money spent now to just tack it on for now will be waisted when you decide to reroof. It will all have to come off and be replaced.
Wait to long to replace that roof and it's going to cost you far more for all the added cost to replace the sheathing.

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