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Old 05-07-2013, 11:19 PM   #1
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i'm making repairs on my downspouts and have some newbie questions:

1. does it matter if the little hex gutter screws are stainless steel? i'm thinking yes because steel contact with aluminum makes for corrosion?

2. what size gutter screws? #8 x 3/8 or #7 x 3/8?

3. i found these zip stainless steel gutter screws at home depot that strip easy and don't drive through the aluminum well. do gutter installers use these?

http://www.homedepot.com/p/8-x-3-8-i...7#.UYnXlcocMd4

4. where can i find these longer elbow A? these have 7 ridges on the side while the ones at home depot have 6.



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Stainless is good, non magnetic so a little harder to work with high up on a ladder. Use only the 1/4 inch drive hex head. Or pop rivets. Probably to much of a wrestle to use the hidden hangers. So, yes gutter screws are the way to go. Get 7 inch, do not crush the gutter putting them in. The gutter elbows have been shrinking by the year. Home depot actually sells some of the longer ones available. You will have to cut a small section of downspout to extend the elbow, if it is a real short piece, screw the seam or it will split.

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Sure looks like you have that elbow installed backwards.
The way it is now waters going to leak out where the elbow attaches to the short piece of down spout needed to get it closer to the wall.
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Sure looks like you have that elbow installed backwards.
The way it is now waters going to leak out where the elbow attaches to the short piece of down spout needed to get it closer to the wall.
It inside Joe, like its supposed to be. Water is flowing downward. So what really happened?
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i'm making repairs on my downspouts and have some newbie questions:

1. does it matter if the little hex gutter screws are stainless steel? i'm thinking yes because steel contact with aluminum makes for corrosion?

2. what size gutter screws? #8 x 3/8 or #7 x 3/8?

3. i found these zip stainless steel gutter screws at home depot that strip easy and don't drive through the aluminum well. do gutter installers use these?

http://www.homedepot.com/p/8-x-3-8-i...7#.UYnXlcocMd4

4. where can i find these longer elbow A? these have 7 ridges on the side while the ones at home depot have 6.



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Those arent stainless, maybe they just used a stock picture. You need a Hex washer head and a good magnetic nut driver unless you want to go insane. The trouble with stainless is they wont stay on the tip.
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It inside Joe, like its supposed to be. Water is flowing downward. So what really happened?
i don't know how long ago the gutters were installed, but they're missing the downspout outlet, so the downspout was just screwed to the cut aluminum edges of the hole. during torrential rainfall, water would pour out at the connection. here's one that i tried to see if the outlet fits with all the uncut aluminum edges.



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I'm not seeing any silicone under that down spout adaptor, and it's bent.
Look again at the bottom right at the elbow where it connects to something.
Whatever it is the elbows on the outside of it, not the inside like it should be.
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You probably don't want to use "silicone" on that downspout, drop.
Gutter seal - "Vulkem" or equivalent.

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I am able to cut my holes close enough that I do not use sealer on the outlets anymore. That style hidden hanger is a bad idea, I do not like how it is screwed into the dip edge as well. looks like the shingles were cut short of the drip. Thar gutter was run flat or pitched the wrong way if it is that close to the drip at the end of its run.

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You probably don't want to use "silicone" on that downspout, drop.
Gutter seal - "Vulkem" or equivalent.

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Why? 100% Silicone is not organic like Urethane, and has tenacious adhesion to metal that has been cleaned with Naphtha. Urethane cracks due to UV attack in about 7 years, and gets moldy because it is organic. I assume You aren't going to paint your gutters and downspouts.
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I'm not seeing any silicone under that down spout adaptor, and it's bent.
Look again at the bottom right at the elbow where it connects to something.
Whatever it is the elbows on the outside of it, not the inside like it should be.
it's slightly bent because the outlet opening isn't flat...someone just cut it open and peeled back the edges.

good point about the silicone under the adapter, but i'm not sure if it'll work if the outlet isn't flat?

a guy at home depot said i should use a can of rustoleum gutter sealant and spray around edges of adaptor?

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