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Old 06-19-2011, 07:50 AM   #1
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Our house is 4 years old now, and lately I've been noticing water pouring over the gutter on the rear of the house. At first I thought maybe the gutter was clogged with debris, but they are clean as a whistle. Then I noticed how the main roof and "turrets" are drained. All the water from the kitchen turret drains and spill out onto the main roof through a "U" shaped hole in the gutter. The main roof then drains and spills out through the same sized hole onto the bedroom turret. Then the bedroom turret drains into a downspout.

Something doesn't look right here. With all the water draining into one downspout it looks to little old me to be overloaded. I don't like the cutouts in the gutters either.

What do you all think?
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Old 06-19-2011, 08:51 AM   #2
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If their is no spot to put a downspout ,That is how we would install them. but we would have put a larger downspout that is too small for all that roof. I would recommend put a larger downspout and splash guards.
Plus that gutter on right with the downspout looks like it is pitching to the house.
The only other option is to cap the ends of those gutters and add a downspout. The only question is where to put the downspouts.

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I agree with gutterman -sort of-. Looking at all your pics it appears to me that there is no pitch on any of the gutter sections. At the very least you should have 1/8" per side around the turrets pitched towards the downspout. The last section with the downspout in it could be left level. With a roof that expansive and that great of a pitch (what is it, a 12/12?) you definitely need a larger downspout than what you currently have. It looks like a 4" and should be at least a 5" downspout. There should be a downspout (5") at BOTH ends of the long length of gutter and that should be pitched from the center of the gutter to both downspouts (1/8" pitch). If this doesn't solve your problem you could try pop riveting a 3/4 x 1 1/2" L shaped lip on top of the gutter lip, the entire length of the gutter so the water can run down and hit that lip and fall into the gutter. Watch out for those open-ended gutters and /or cut outs that just dump on the roof section below. That concentrated volume and flow in that small space will erode your shingles MUCH faster than just rain falling.

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Old 06-19-2011, 01:36 PM   #4
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I see what you guys are saying. I can add 2 more downspouts one on either end of the long gutter and put them into the underground drain that takes the storm water away from the house and dumps it into a ravine and then evidentially a pond. The area where the gutter empties onto the roof is two stories high. That means if I do something here I will need to wait till my wife isn't around! I'll have to check on the pitch of the gutter.

When the rain falls really heavy, water can be seen flowing over the long gutter. I'll have to check next time, but I was under the assumption the hole at the end of the long gutter just wasn't big enough and water was backing up filling the gutter and overflowing. Maybe it is as you stated the water from the roof is overshooting the gutter.

Hadn't thought about the shingles wearing out where the water dumps onto the roof. Now what?

Thanks for the comments. These will give me something to ponder.
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Old 06-19-2011, 03:27 PM   #5
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Trying to correct these problems two stories up is NOT something to consider by hiding it from your spouse. Common sense will tell you to get a gutter guy or maybe a roofer up there that is comfortable working at those heights. The gutters don't have to come down if you know what you are doing in the first place, but if this is the first or second time for working on things that high YOU WILL GET HURT.
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I hear you Grampa! The only other option from hiding it from her is to order her to go up there. "I'll hold the ladder, you go up". After 39 years I would think she would do it, right? Right? Well, maybe not.

Thanks for your concern.
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The bigger concern should be why are there cut 3-tabs for hip cap instead of cap designed just for that?!

That is my biggest pet peeve!!

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