Flat roof, need help

salahnajm · 04-07-2010, 06:56 PM

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Originally Posted by KyleB

You were quoted 4 to 5 thousand for a 11'x13' flat roof with no protrusions?!?!?!?!?!!? That's bloody robbery.

What ever roofing companies quoted that to you, never call them for anything.

?? What's a good price that I should expect then?

KyleB · 04-07-2010, 08:58 PM

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Originally Posted by salahnajm

?? What's a good price that I should expect then?

11' x 13', correct? That's a little over one square. What type of membrane were they proposing for you? Since we've been talking so much about EPDM, I will tell you that any roofing company that does a fair amount of EPDM could do that roof with the scrap material left over from a bigger job. $1K maybe? 4 to 5 is totally out in left field.

AaronB · 04-08-2010, 12:04 AM

Get a picture of the whole roof and show us where the leak is showing up in the house.

Kyle, I have done some one square roofs with so much detail work they took two good roofers two days to do. Can't tell without pics.

slickgt1 · 04-08-2010, 10:35 AM

You should hear the quotes I am getting in NYC to do my roof.

I initially though about not bothering with it myself, especially since I will have to do it and pull a few guys from a remodel I am doing. The cheapest quote I got was $11k for 1200sq ft. remove replace, and they were agreing to everything I suggested. Basically noobs.
Company I liked, 19k.

Yup, doing it myself.

salahnajm · 04-09-2010, 07:27 PM

Here are the pictures of my roof... I honestly feel its a small roof and can do it myself (with some extra work and time).

I don't want to pay anymore 'roofers' unless it still leaks and then I will hire a professional company and pay extra money. What really bothers me with these 'independent' or 'cheap' roofers is that they do the work and DO NOT GUARANTEE their work. I honestly called them back and told them that I DO NOT want them to come back to fix the roof, I just want to ask them the questions I'm asking you guys... one of them said he'll come by in a few days (that was like 3 weeks ago)

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When we got these 2 roofers, we went through 5-6 others and all of them said that our roof doesnt need to be ripped (they quoted around 4-5k if we decided to rip and install a whole new roof, I think one said like 2-3K).

My experience sucks and I do not want to deal with similar people anymore. I'm willing to hire a professional company, after I do it myself and find its not working..

I just need to figure out which material would be best to cover the roof with a single ply material.

AaronB · 04-10-2010, 01:11 PM

To do this right, you're going to have to remove some siding, and the door from its jamb and replace all of it.

KyleB · 04-10-2010, 02:59 PM

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Originally Posted by AaronB

Get a picture of the whole roof and show us where the leak is showing up in the house.

Kyle, I have done some one square roofs with so much detail work they took two good roofers two days to do. Can't tell without pics.

Same here, although for $4000 on a one square EPDM roof I would expect a TON of detail work.

AaronB · 04-10-2010, 03:55 PM

Where is the water showing up inside?

bernieb · 04-10-2010, 05:28 PM

You may consider putting rubber down, as it solved my flat roof problem. It comes 10 feet wide and any length and its as thick as a car innertube. Tear up all the old,replace any rotten wood .You may get some wrinkles, but so what .......just caulk the seams and use galvanized roofing nails. Your size roof for less than 200 bucks for parts. And no liquid tar please.

And get rid of that railing........keep a ladder up there if you need it in case of fire.

AaronB · 04-10-2010, 07:52 PM

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Originally Posted by bernieb

You may consider putting rubber down, as it solved my flat roof problem. It comes 10 feet wide and any length and its as thick as a car innertube. Tear up all the old,replace any rotten wood .You may get some wrinkles, but so what .......just caulk the seams and use galvanized roofing nails. Your size roof for less than 200 bucks for parts. And no liquid tar please.

This is by far the most incorrect way I have ever read on how to install a rubber roof.

bernieb · 04-11-2010, 08:10 AM

I respect your title as being a professional, so please inform me ,have you had any rubber roofs blow up and away with your method, so to speak?

salahnajm · 04-12-2010, 12:16 PM

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Originally Posted by bernieb

You may consider putting rubber down, as it solved my flat roof problem. It comes 10 feet wide and any length and its as thick as a car innertube. Tear up all the old,replace any rotten wood .You may get some wrinkles, but so what .......just caulk the seams and use galvanized roofing nails. Your size roof for less than 200 bucks for parts. And no liquid tar please.

And get rid of that railing........keep a ladder up there if you need it in case of fire.

I'm trying to find a solution WITHOUT having to rip out my old roof or cutting any edges off... I want to cover it. Its a minor leak, only with heavy rain. If I start ripping the roof I know I'm going to dig myself into a very deep hole

I know I can't put down EPDM over my torch down. Can I use a membrane like this to cover my roof and then put the EPDM over it??

http://www.homedepot.com/h_d1/N-5yc1...atalogId=10053

BTW I'm not sure where the water is dripping from as the inside has a finished ceiling (again I do not want to rip it out to see were water is coming from)

Slyfox · 04-12-2010, 01:51 PM

Any material with an asphalt/oil base will cause issues if it comes in contact with the EPDM.
You can cover the field with insulation 'Fiber board or ISO' fastened into the existing roof 'not loose laid' and glue your EPDM to it.
You will still have detail work to deal with at the edges of the roof, walls, etc.

If it's a minor leak, how about you use Roof Cement & Cotton Membrane 'mesh' to cover all seams, flashing's and any blisters or rotting portions of the existing roof and than coat it with a fiber based aluminum coating.

This method will add years of life to your roof, will not cost much more and is far easier a method for a diy project.

AaronB · 04-12-2010, 02:52 PM

My question was... Where is the lak showing up in the house, not where is it entering the roofing.

If you can answer this question, we may be able to provide some direction on where to look.

salahnajm · 04-12-2010, 06:44 PM

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Originally Posted by AaronB

My question was... Where is the lak showing up in the house, not where is it entering the roofing.

If you can answer this question, we may be able to provide some direction on where to look.

The ceiling as you can see from the pics is finished. I do not want to rip it out to see where the leak is coming from. The circles (poorly drawn) are where I see water drops with heavy rain. The arrow is where the door to access the roof from above is (you see the door on my previous pictures of the roof)