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Old 10-01-2007, 08:38 PM   #16
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Here is another question for everyone: How common is it for roofers to not show up for an estimate? I have had this happen twice now. And, the place that did not come Sunday was highly spoken of by family. Is this common? It makes me leary - if they don't show up to try and get the job, what is going to happen once they do get it. I will call tomorrow to see what happened, but geez, I can't imagine times are that good around here...

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Old 10-01-2007, 10:23 PM   #17
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I contacted a guy I know from another forum, but I need you to e-mail me your address and home phone, and work or cell phone number so he can contact you now.

His comments are pretty well respected, but since I do not live near him, I can not do anything except for connect the 2 of you together and then you can make up your own minds.

BTW, I did not request nor would accept any kind of referral fee/commission, if it ever came up in future conversations, from this individual, just in case that thought were to come up.

As far as the not showing up...Well, your Lions kicked our Bears butts on Sunday. Too bad somebody even made an appointment for a Sunday. That should be a day to spend with family and be the highest priority anyone could have.

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Old 10-02-2007, 10:21 AM   #18
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Thanks, Ed. Sent ya an email.
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Old 10-02-2007, 01:16 PM   #19
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I passed it on. His name is Craig and I believe he is out of Ann Arbor, MI.

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Old 10-02-2007, 03:02 PM   #20
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Another random question, per a quote I received today, the roofer called for mineral sheet in valleys with closed construction. If I were to upgrade to the 50 year shingles, they will use metal valleys. What is the difference.

Also, he uses Tamko and Certainteed. Are both a quality product?

Sorry for my ineptitude...
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Old 10-02-2007, 03:10 PM   #21
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Firstly, Tamko and then Certainteed are my primary 2 offerings. I have been very comfortable with both products for years.

The Tamko Heritage line has some very good colors and so does the Certainteed Landmark line of shingles.

Next, it depends on what he is referring to, as a "mineral sheet" in the valley. I have never heard of that described that way, unless he is referring to a 90# granulated roll roofing product, which is total crap. Possibly he is referring to a mineral or granulated surfaced version of an ice and water shield product. I don't like the silica sand surfaced versions and only stck with the premium brand of Grace Ice and Water Shield.

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Sorry, yes, it says 90# mineral sheet in valley areas with closed construction.

I wasn't around to ask questions, so I will definitely need to follow up with him on the phone. They did spec Grace Ice and Water Shield (6 feet) for eaves edges, 3 feet for my skylight and and all roof penetrations...
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Old 10-06-2007, 12:19 AM   #23
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also some" siding contractors" will install vented soffit panels w/out cutting the required holes for venting which from your pics would be my guess,also organic shingles will react like that,be sure to have fiberglass based shingles used
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have ice +water shield laid in the valleys 1st,then either close weave the valleys,or install a metal valley(open),either will serve you well if installed correctly--craig will explain these things to you further
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Well, I figured out my venting/heat issue. I went up in the attic finally and was surprised by what I saw. the soffits are completely open, with baffles. I have gable vents that need closed, but not until I have a ridge vent. Turns out the builder's ridge vent consisted of looping felt over the ridge and nailing ridge shingles on top. There is ZERO vent space on the ridge, so there is no where (other than the gable) for the air to go.

Also, on the positive side, I think I found a roofer. He is very patient, knowledgeable and as I found out at a builder's show today, very well liked by his customers. While I was there talking to him (he had been out earlier to quote the job) we had 4 customers come out and thank him and invite me over to look at the job he did on their roofs...all by happenstance.
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we had 4 customers come out and thank him and invite me over to look at the job he did on their roofs...all by happenstance.
Just make sure that they don't all have the same last name as the roofing contractor.

That seems highly unlikely to have happened in my opinion.

Do these same 4 "customers happen to show up at his booth at the home show whenever someone stops by and expresses an interest in the contractor services?

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Just make sure that they don't all have the same last name as the roofing contractor.

That seems highly unlikely to have happened in my opinion.

Do these same 4 "cusyomers happen to show uo at his booth at the home show whenever someone stops by and expresses an interest in the contractor services?

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Wow, Ed! Is that how they do things out there in Chicago? Naw, this was completely random. They also did the roof of a guy at the end of my street I found out, and he really liked them - so much so that they are now doing the roof on his dad's house. I'm pretty happy with this guy.

On a side note, I had a guy come out and he told me that he could get me a 30 year warranty through Certainteed on a 30 year shingle if he used all Certainteed products (ridge, ice and water, etc.). THe guy I like says he never heard of such a thing and pointed me to the warranty handout from Certainteed saying 5* is 15 years on a 30-year shingle. He offered me that coverage for the quoted price. Any idea what the other guy was talking about? I heard him clear as day say 30 years...strange.
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Certainteed Select Shinglers have the capability of offering a lengthier warranty but there is also an additional fee attached to that job.

I sort of did not undestand your question though, with the

5* is 15 years on a 30 year roof. Huh??

A 30 year warranty, otherwise would be pro-rated after an initial Sure Start Warranty period, which varies dependant upon which shingle is chosen. The
sure Start Warranty period is for 100 % material cost, without being pro-rated.

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Certainteed Select Shinglers have the capability of offering a lengthier warranty but there is also an additional fee attached to that job.

I sort of did not undestand your question though, with the

5* is 15 years on a 30 year roof. Huh??

A 30 year warranty, otherwise would be pro-rated after an initial Sure Start Warranty period, which varies dependant upon which shingle is chosen. The
sure Start Warranty period is for 100 % material cost, without being pro-rated.

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I'm sorry, that is what I meant. If I go for the 5-star surestart on a 30-year shingles it gets me 15 years of coverage. This other guy said he could get me a Certainteed warranty that was for 30 years on a 30 year shingle. I don't see that as an option from the company. Ever heard of that?

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