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Old 05-04-2009, 10:00 AM   #16
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Were those Reps able to keep a straight face when telling you that story?

Either they have Zero experience or were lying through their teeth.

Ed
I have been using the Elk shingle for about 8 years (now Gaf/Elk)
Gaf made a very poor product & last year bought Elk (wanted the technology)
I have seen 2 claims
1 with Elk about 3 years ago-Consultant specified a gap in the plywood on a cedar to asphalt conversion(gap on the ends as well as the sides)
The venting that was put in drew so much air that on the bottom row, air passed through these spaces & created buckles in the shingles.
This was clearly not Elks problem but they paid to remove all of the problem shingles & after short shingles were put in the problem stopped.
This was a 75 unit complex. Thousands of lineal ft.

2nd one was on one of our sites & this is with Gaf/Elk
Townhouse complex we were on had a pallet sent out on one of the buildings that had some granule loss on a few bundles & a bit of a mismatch on the colour(shadowline granules were missing)
The colour was close & went undetected until I got there to inspect it.
This was an expensive job, 48 square on building, Ice & water shield, TG2, 26 ga flashings.
The pallet got mixed in with the rest of the product on 1 building
Gaf/Elk paid (without hesitation) to replace the whole thing.
They stand by their products,
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Old 05-04-2009, 10:28 AM   #17
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I wasn't inferring that they did not stand by their product.

They stated that they have NEVER heard of a warranty claim.

C'mon!!! Get real!!!


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I live in GA in a $450k home and need a new roof. The contractor I am working with has suggested the Certainteed CLASSIC Horizon Shangle. Will this look as good as the reguluar architectural shingles or should I move to a Landmark series.

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I like Certainteed Shingles, but would Never Use the XT-25's.

If you need to be on a budget, at least get the XT-30's.

Better than that though, for hardly much of a price difference is the LandMark 30's.

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I live in GA in a $450k home and need a new roof. The contractor I am working with has suggested the Certainteed CLASSIC Horizon Shangle. Will this look as good as the reguluar architectural shingles or should I move to a Landmark series.

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Whoever suggested using Horizon shangles should not be in business. Come on. Next to the GAF sovereigns, that is about the worst shingle made in the last 15 years.
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Location is a big issue when choosing a roofing system.
In my area the classic 3-tab horizon is no longer sold, I thought they stopped production of that line completely.
The new horizon was introduced in 97/98 some where around that time frame, thus it's not been properly time tested as of yet but from what I have seen from the roofs I used them on they are doing fine.
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I know of 3 roofs right now that are deteriorating rapidly within 5 years. We have replaced quite a few New Horizons already. It seems to me that the heat eats them up real quick.
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I thought that Certainteed was finally giving up on the Classic Horizon and the New Horizon lines, due to the large volume of class action lawsuits against that style, where the "Applique" section cracks, crazes and spider-webs, due to excessive surface asphalt without any reinforcement.

I would not consider the Horizons though, mainly because all it is, is an over-rated 3-tab shingle, but with a distinctive patterned look to it.

The LandMark's would be my choice given from what you stated. Make sure they are the AR version also.

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