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Old 04-28-2009, 03:31 PM   #1
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Hello,
I'm getting quotes to get my roof done, and I'm leaning towards one roofer in particular. However he mentioned that he uses fibreglass shingles, and I was wondering if anyone has any experience with these, good or bad.
I just want to be informed before dropping 8 grand on a roof.
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Just another name for any of the shingle brands. Elk, Certainteed, Gaf, Owens-Corning, etc.

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Old 04-28-2009, 11:16 PM   #3
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Just another name for any of the shingle brands. Elk, Certainteed, Gaf, Owens-Corning, etc.
No I don't think so, it's actually a differently manufactured shingle, different than traditional organic asphalt.
I found an answer here for anyone interested.
http://www.canadianhomeworkshop.com/...ingles/a/21289
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All common composite shingles are created using asphalt, which when used as the center reinforcement core, are also more properly known as Organic Shingles.

Fiberglass shingles also are composed using asphalt, but the center reinforcement core contains a fiberglass mesh for strength.

Many years ago, fiberglass shingles had a poor quality assertion made about them, but that was primarily due to very weak, thin and light weight shingles using the fiberglass core.

Currently, most, if not all of the more premium shingle products are of the Fiberglass Core variety.

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Fiberglass vs. Organic
Fiberglass shingles have come to dominate the market, for several reasons: They are lighter and easier to handle, they are more resistant to moisture, and they carry a higher fire rating than organic shingles.

But organic shingles remain popular in the northern United States and in Canada. Many roofers say that organic shingles are easier to handle in cold weather, and while the hot sun in the southern U.S. can degrade their soft asphalt, they hold up well in colder climates.

Found this >here<.

The one thing I didn't see mentioned in either your link or mine is the asbestos factor.
The original organics used asbestos in the core, which gave them the long life span and heat resistance, but asbestos can no longer be used in there core which is why they can't withstand or perform as well as fiberglass.
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The one thing I didn't see mentioned in either your link or mine is the asbestos factor.
The original organics used asbestos in the core, which gave them the long life span and heat resistance, but asbestos can no longer be used in there core which is why they can't withstand or perform as well as fiberglass.

That's interesting, I was aware of the asbestos paper they used to use underneath the shingles on some homes, but not that the shingles themselves contained asbestos. I wonder if this becomes an occupational hazard?
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Fiberglass vs. Organic
Fiberglass shingles have come to dominate the market, for several reasons: They are lighter and easier to handle, they are more resistant to moisture, and they carry a higher fire rating than organic shingles.

But organic shingles remain popular in the northern United States and in Canada. Many roofers say that organic shingles are easier to handle in cold weather, and while the hot sun in the southern U.S. can degrade their soft asphalt, they hold up well in colder climates.

Found this >here<.

The one thing I didn't see mentioned in either your link or mine is the asbestos factor.
The original organics used asbestos in the core, which gave them the long life span and heat resistance, but asbestos can no longer be used in there core which is why they can't withstand or perform as well as fiberglass.
Your right about the old organic shingles, they did last much longer.
Fibreglass is good but the same holds true for all products. There is good & bad. I live in Vancouver, BC. Can be freezing one day & 65 degrees F the next & have 2" of rain in the morning. Cheap fibreglass shingles last about 10 years here. Certainteed, Gaf/Elk & Malarkey are my shingles of choice for our climate. We also do a lot of work in Whistler. 2 hours out of Vancouver, 10 degrees F in winter & 100 degrees F in summer as well as 20 ft of snow. only a few products stand up to that kind of punishment.
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Your right about the old organic shingles, they did last much longer.
Fibreglass is good but the same holds true for all products. There is good & bad. I live in Vancouver, BC. Can be freezing one day & 65 degrees F the next & have 2" of rain in the morning. Cheap fibreglass shingles last about 10 years here. Certainteed, Gaf/Elk & Malarkey are my shingles of choice for our climate. We also do a lot of work in Whistler. 2 hours out of Vancouver, 10 degrees F in winter & 100 degrees F in summer as well as 20 ft of snow. only a few products stand up to that kind of punishment.
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Good to know I have similar climate here in Ottawa, if not a bit more cold, in one year it can easily go -40 or +40. But I chatted with my roofer of choice and he said that he uses Certainteed XT 25, gave me a brochure and all that good stuff.
Thx for the info!
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I like Certainteed Shingles, but would Never Use the XT-25's.

If you need to be on a budget, at least get the XT-30's.

Better than that though, for hardly much of a price difference is the LandMark 30's.

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I like Certainteed Shingles, but would Never Use the XT-25's.

If you need to be on a budget, at least get the XT-30's.

Better than that though, for hardly much of a price difference is the LandMark 30's.

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Good to know, is there a large difference between the 25s and the 30s quality wise?

If all goes as planned, I'll probably still be in my house in 25 yrs and be looking into the roofing again.
We're actually trying to be proactive with our roof, we have one side of it that is south facing and takes a beating, so the shingles are in rough shape, but the rest of the roof looks good. No leaks or anything, but we don't want to go there, and I'd rather replace the whole roof at once with the eaves and soffits too.

So if installed properly as per specs, will the 25's actually last that long and the 30s that long, or is it more likely the 25's will last 20 and the 30s will last 23?
I think I'll get my roofer to give me a price on the 30's and we'll see what the difference is.

Thanks for the opinions!
(p.s. I'm always on a budget)
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Whoa, I just found about this class action lawsuit over certainteed shingles failing in unreasonable amounts of time.
http://www.halunenlaw.com/news/2006/...ction-lawsuit/

This makes me nervous about the XTs

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Certainteed Hallmarks

Certainteed Horizons and Classic Horizons, (I only did 2 Horizon jobs in the early 90's and both look as good as new 18 years later)

Certainteed Sealdon 25's, (organic version...XT is fiberglass)

Certainteed Independence, (I have never had a problem with these, but several other roofing contractors around the country have)

The LandMarks have a quality reputation.

Malarkey shingles have one of te best reputations in your area for long term durability. I never used them, but wish I could. Only one place offers them around me, but they are always a special order and not kept in stock.

The most important feature to have installed to make the shingles last for as long as they should, is a properly Balanced Intake and Exhaust Ventilation System.

Provide your homes measurements and we can configure the right system for your needs for the long haul.

Don't pinch a few pennies now if you want it to last 25 years.

Go with the LandMarks or Malarkey Alaskans.

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Good to know I have similar climate here in Ottawa, if not a bit more cold, in one year it can easily go -40 or +40. But I chatted with my roofer of choice and he said that he uses Certainteed XT 25, gave me a brochure and all that good stuff.
Thx for the info!
Ed's right
Landmark 30 is a great product on a budget
Landmark 40 may be one of the best 40 year products on the market
Also one of the most expensive 40 year products
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As soon as the first storm comes throuhg the warrenty on shingles is gone. More inportant is thet after talking to a ceterteed rep and then my gaf rep they both said that they dont remember the last time there was a warrenty issue with there product. Problems come from storm dammage or poor instulation. Goodluck
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As soon as the first storm comes throuhg the warrenty on shingles is gone. More inportant is thet after talking to a ceterteed rep and then my gaf rep they both said that they dont remember the last time there was a warrenty issue with there product. Problems come from storm dammage or poor instulation. Goodluck
Were those Reps able to keep a straight face when telling you that story?

Either they have Zero experience or were lying through their teeth.

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