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Old 11-10-2011, 05:34 PM   #1
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Dormer flashing?


Just had new roof put on today and the roofers put the shingles over the flashing on the dormers. They ran a buck bead of caulk over where the shingles meet the dormer. I can see the calk braking up and water going under the shingles. What do you guys think?

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Old 11-10-2011, 07:09 PM   #2
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You needed roofers on the roof, not those 'other people' for want of a better description. A roofer should be able to tear it off/up and correct your problem.

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This is what it looks like.
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Yeah, the flashing on the sides comes down and crosses over that flashing which is supposed to be on top of the shingles. That's why it's called 'Termination Flashing' in all the roofing manuals.
Now, water is also being trapped at the corners since the layers have been reversed, as stated in my first sentence above.
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Not to put too fine a point on it but your "roofers" suck.

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That is what I'm afraid of, such a bummer these guys came highly recommend.
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Before you get too critical, check to see if the termination flashing is under that last course of shingles . Those may be a decorative finish course they install over the termination flashing......

....if not .....they suck.....
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Before you get too critical, check to see if the termination flashing is under that last course of shingles . Those may be a decorative finish course they install over the termination flashing......

....if not .....they suck.....
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Still not a fan of that application but that could also be the case.
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Before you get too critical, check to see if the termination flashing is under that last course of shingles . Those may be a decorative finish course they install over the termination flashing......

....if not .....they suck.....
It's under there and they suck, as you put it. It completely negates the layered approach necessary at the corners. Now that the flashing is also full of holes, it should be replaced. It's supposed to be on top for a purpose and the exposed flashing is decorative.
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It's under there and they suck, as you put it. It completely negates the layered approach necessary at the corners. Now that the flashing is also full of holes, it should be replaced. It's supposed to be on top for a purpose and the exposed flashing is decorative.
Some roofers just install rolled flashing they buy at the store.
They don't have a break or order pre-bent.
They bend it with a 2x4 or bang it against the building until it kind of fits, ending up with a wavy, ugly, but functional detail.
The decorative course of shingles hides that.

....not all are as detail oriented as you are, Tinner......
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Thats what worries me is that there is a bead of calk from where the shingles meet the dormer. They have nails in and calk over that. I can see that braking down and leaks.

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I know it looks like there's potential for leaks but it's standard practice in the industry....seen it many times....
The last line of defense is Ice & Water shield installed as an underlayment.
Not just at the eaves but all the way up to the sidewall and even up 8-10".
Did they do that?
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I called them they are comming back and fix it up better. I will ask them about the ice guard they comee back.

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Before you get too critical, check to see if the termination flashing is under that last course of shingles . Those may be a decorative finish course they install over the termination flashing......

....if not .....they suck.....
I'm going to break my main rule and comment again.
For argument's sake, of course. And for informational value.
If there's supposed to be a decorative course, why did they stop one course early? That's the nail line and a few inches of the back of the shingle showing. To add another course would then mean another handfull of nail holes in what used to be good flashing.
Not that I've ever passed one done that way when I inspect roofs for the banks/mortgage people.
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To add another course would then mean another handfull of nail holes in what used to be good flashing.
It's all in the details, huh?

I never nail the decorative course for that very reason.
I glue them down with Lexel

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