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Old 08-25-2007, 10:02 PM   #61
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Ok, legends or god, as far as I'm concerned there is a throne for each of you and I appreciate your help. Wish I'd found this chat BEFORE I hired a roofer and installed Landmark. So much for living by faith. Never again! I guess it's just like doctors.........it is said that it is always best to get a second opinion.

Yesterday I got the return receipt from the registered mailing I sent to CertainTeed. I imagine I will hear a response soon.

Today I SCRUBBED all of the gutters inside and out........and downspouts too, so they may be reinstalled this week. They are squeeky clean again. I'll watch to see what amount of new granules collect this year.

The gentleman who helped me with the lifting turning and washing today said he'd never seen so much granule loss ever before. Maybe I got a bad batch, and maybe Landmark hasn't been out or named Landmark long enough for a new generation of complaints. When I asked my roofer about quality, he said nothing is made well anymore, or not like it used to be anyway. I guess I understand this point of comparison just by comparing home construction. Homes were formerly much more solid and sound proof.

I was told that they are Landmark 50 is highly rated in Consumer Reports.

Thank you so much again for all your help. I'll keep logging it for updates and more chat. Wendy

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Old 08-25-2007, 10:31 PM   #62
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ED, I see your point. It is well taken. I did not consider it a big thing.


The other issue is the way way the skylight flashing was handled. They reused the old flashing, prying it up out of the way. It was then pushed back down into position when the shingle time came. Because it was springy it would not stay down flush to the Ice & water. So they nailed each piece in turn down with 2 nails. The nails were covered with some sort of black roofing tar and then the shingle was set in place.

The front (eve side) also had tar neatly spread under it and was nailed down using nails with much smaller heads than roofing nails.

Skylight and flashing looks good. I am concerned that it may leak the way it was done.

If new flashing was used it would fit flush without nails and would have no holes in it as it originally was.


Do I have cause for concern here?

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Old 08-25-2007, 10:40 PM   #63
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ED, The last shingle on the ridge could be glued on with PL400!

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Old 08-25-2007, 11:05 PM   #64
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hey doc,ED answered about the 4 nails in the cap,that`s how it`s normally done,if you want you can freshen the sealant and sprinkle some loose granules on them to blend it in,otherwise it`s no biggie,the skylights should have had the flashing removed,ICE&WATER installed up the curbs and then the flashing reinstalled cleanly w/out any sealant(this is one of the finishing details that make a difference)the step flashing would be nailed in each top corner,then the shingle goes over it,then the next stepflashing,shingle and on and on,the bottom and head flashing should have no nails showing,they`re secured by a small nail into the wood side of the skylight which gets lapped by the next piece of flashing,you can probably see an installation booklet at velux.com(andersen,pella,etc.)---we would like to see pictures
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You are very welcome Wendy!---doc you probably could seal the last piece of cap down but you would have to hold it till the sealant cures
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now go back and look at my links doc!
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Thanks Ed for tip on the last ridge shingle.

TRG The flashing was stepped in the manor you spoke of. Ice and water was also done. They used 2 nails, not one on each piece of flashing. I'm not sure why they covered the nailed area with tar, after all the shingles cover the nail heads. You cant see any roofing tar on, in, or under any shingle/flashing piece. Below shows the nails in the front of the skylight (eve side). If thats the head ? There is only one piece of flashing there which runs the full width.
Looks something like below. I will get photos up. Dots of course are nails, only not so many. Maybe 4 or 5.
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Old 08-25-2007, 11:51 PM   #68
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It all looks very nice. I'll get some photos up soon. I gota get new camera.

TRG , I looked at your album earlier today. I was intrigued by the standing seam steel roof. Not to take anything away from the other products you had going on. I had already told Wendy to look into steel if she really wanted the best. I've heard aluminum is quite good also.

If I were a smarter man I would have had new copper flashing pieces ready to go for the skylight. It would have been easy to do since I have a roll of copper in the garage.

Next time you are in Lowes you can see what my old metal ridge vent looked like. They have a kind for sale there that is very much like mine, if not exactly like mine.
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Wendy, you are very welcome.
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doc,you can`t use copper w/aluminum,if you have colored nails at the front of the skylight flashing(apron),it`s not good as they can work out from exposure over time
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TRG, OK, I understand.
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Also, most roofers I have seen would not go the the proper measures of buying and using copper nails for the copper flashings.

I jist did a job last November that had aluminum baby tins and galvanized nails counterflashed with copper.

The aluminum tins were disitergrating completely and the nails were sheared off at any place they were in contact with the copper.

Don't mix metals!!! Their is a chart of galvanic corrosion, which shows which metals would be comfortably compatible with each other.

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My skylight is a somewhat older ROTO brand. The flashing on each side when originally installed was simply slipped under a rubber lip which ran around the whole top of the skylight. The bottom part of each flashing piece folded to 90 degree to sit flush to the shingle line. No nails at all. I'm not saying that was how it was supposed to be finished , only that it was.
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you don`t see the nails,they`re against the wood skylight frame,it`s called a galvanic reaction,same way they produce electric in a car battery
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I used to have a metal chimney up above the skylight. My son attached his antenna with mast to it. The base of the mast sat on a small block of wood on the roof. The action of wind rocking it back and forth caused the chimney to work loose, which allowed it do leak. We did not suspect a thing until we started finding ants in the tub area of the bath. More every day it seemed. So, up I went and sure enough the underlay from the chimney down to the skylight side & front soft. The farther down you went the more soft it was. Replaced about 3 1/2 sheets if memory serves. I plucked each & every piece of flashing off that side like feathers off a chicken and there were no nails. The flashing came with the skylight when purchased. I assume it was meant to have the flashing done that way. When I shingled the area I put the flashing back in as I found it. The guys that put the skylight in were supposed to be pros.

I know this is a loaded question , but how did copper nails enter the picture?

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