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Old 08-23-2007, 01:11 PM   #46
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Go to GAF, check out the training videos. Kinda hard to get in them. You need to use internet explorer to view them. Look at the one for weatherwatch and storm guard.

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Old 08-23-2007, 01:13 PM   #47
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TRG I don't want to tick him off just yet. For now I will just be quietly effective.
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Old 08-23-2007, 07:32 PM   #48
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Wow, you guys are really on this. I appreciate it. I'm copy pasting it to Word as we go, so I can print it out later and go over it when I'm away from my computer also.

I know that he covered all of the wood with sheets of black material which rolled out horizontally. It was flat on the roll, but warped on each edge by the time I got home from work. I asked the roofer about this, as it was not warped on the roll before being unrolled, and he told me 'not to worry about that, it does that, and the shingles will cover it up.' As you can see from the 2005 pictures when the roof was newly installed, the warping wasn't immediate.

With regard to the eaves vents, they are aluminum, i'd say they are all about 8 ft apart. My home is about 1300 sq ft. The vents are on all lower eaves, front and back.

The gable vents are like none I've ever seen. The varying overlap of metal is probably for moisture run off, but just under that edge and only on less than half of the edge are holes like needle pinpricks. I don't believe there are even any bugs small enough to gain access (which is good-no carpenter ants, spiders, etc), but by looking at them, I wouldn't think they would offer much by way of venting. The eaves vents and ridge vents have much more airspace. The one-way bathroom vent next to the north gable vent does not allow intake, it only vents bathroom steam.

I will have to try to view the video from work after hours. I do not currently have sound available at my home computer. It was not reinstalled last time it was overhauled (long story).

Anyway, you guys are so tremendously helpful, could I ask you all for a poll. I will wait until CertainTeed responds to my warranty, very likely hire an attorney, and at the very least, my date of issues can be tracked for any type of repair/replace value toward another roofing job.

The trouble with manufacturers is that they have excellent marketing to promote their product, even if it is S___. No one knows better than ALL of you gods of roofing. So may I kindly ask you all please tell me of ALL of the manufacturers you know of that manufacture asphalt shingles. And please list them in the order of superiority as you have witnessed from your own experiences over the years? There was one posting of caution on IKO. I'd love to hear more, because when I move on, I purchase and have installed better quality than what I have now. I have cold feet now about CertainTeed because of the class action lawsuits with Horizon shingles. They started out just like mine, with loss of granules and warping.... I'm going to watch these like a hawk.

In reverence I bow down to every helpful roofing god (this may sound like I'm joking-but I'm serious). I'm certain that all of your deified levels are well-deserved and well-earned over many years of experience, and that the term god is not self-appointed or dependent upon a vast following, but a stature that you have truly earned. No one would know this more than the best contractors. Even the distributors pay attention to your feedback. Very Seriously, no one knows the best better than those who work in any field whether it be medical, dental, law, etc. Yet they are all out there practicing, even though their are licensed, and the average consumer doesn't know one from the next. I've worked many fields, and I'm sorry to say that with roofing, I don't know one from the next. I'm depending on you unbiased gods of roofing. Thank you, Wendy
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Old 08-24-2007, 12:33 PM   #49
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no the shingle itself won`t buckle from that,it gets pushed up from buckled underlayment,popping nails,etc.
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there is but one roofing god wendy the rest be but legends .yourshingles themselves look finecertainteed line due to the asphalt build up to affect the appearance,I have had zero problems w/ Certainteed,and I like their products,my top 3 mfgr.s would be GAF,TAMKO,andCERTAINTEED,not necessarily in that order---please note;ANY material you have installed,it`s warranty and quality only work if they are installed properly,and should have no reflection on the mfgr in these circumstances.your shingles themselves look fine,and the granule washoff is minimal w/in normal range during the settling in period,your problem is more of the roof being installed over buckled underlayment which your roofer should repair under his warranty--GOOD LUCK w/it-TRG
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Old 08-24-2007, 03:26 PM   #51
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I'm not just a legend! I'm a genuine bona fide living legend. I suppose I should qualify that statement by saying that I am not a roofer! Just a little disclosure.
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Old 08-24-2007, 09:18 PM   #52
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referring to others of my ilk of course,you know I`ve done 3 roofs in newtown,connetticut-shoulda called me
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Well, you and I were talking long before I got a roofer. Long before I got the materials. I spoke of the copper in jest. You said I had good taste...Remember?

I thought you were in upstate NY??? Why would you wanna come down here?
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when it`s slow it`s "have guns will travel",I`m in rockland county 5 minutes from the Bear mtn. bridge,I actually do all types of roofing w/few exceptions,along w/home improvementhttp://www.rooferscoffeeshop.com/show_album_photo.asp?userid=130&AlbumID=665&file=5 028&s=0 or you might like this betterhttp://www.rooferscoffeeshop.com/show_album_photo.asp?userid=130&AlbumID=627&file=4 736&s=0 tell me what you think!

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Old 08-25-2007, 01:48 AM   #55
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Yep, I know Rockland County, been there a few times. It's a hike. About 60 miles . 1 1/2 hrs.

I hope the sweetness of low price dos not turn to bitter sorrow of poor workmanship. But, I watched as best I could. We jested at my giving them the pleasure of my company up there with them.

Looked like a good job going down.
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I think the links don't work...
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Went to the site. found your album, photos are 1" x 1" hard to see.
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right click on them,scroll to display image,and click again,only the old stuff brought up by scanner will not get large---ACTUALLY,I figured out how to fix the links,they work great now,go back and look! ----LINK to her photos also works now!

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There are issues with the new roof, the 1st minor I think. The last ridge vent shingle is attached with 4 visible nails through the top of it. Nails have little dabs of silicon over them. The owner of the business was on the ground when the last part of ridge was being finished. I think his man did that one wrong. Am I right on this? Timbertex on ridge.
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The last shingle cap has to have exposed nails.

How else would you expect it to remain attached to the structure?

I don't agree with silicone, but you can always cover it with NP-1, Quad, or Vulkem any time you want. It is a $ 4.00 remedy, so don't let that get your undies all twisted.

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