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Old 09-21-2011, 08:44 PM   #16
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Can I "Layover" a T-Lock roof??


I went over to the supplier this morning to finalize the deal and I mentioned I would have preferred IR (Impact Resistant) but they just cost (with Tamko or GAF) too much..The counterman played with his computer and said "we have some CertainTeed Landmark Lifetime IR for $XXx /square...Since the main reason I'm replacing the roof is hail damage, I felt the extra cost was reasonable, about 20% more..They will deliver the shingles tomorrow to the ridge of my roof and THEY will stack them up! That alone was worth the extra money! I'll see if I can figure out how to post a before and after picture!

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Old 09-21-2011, 09:03 PM   #17
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I have done it a few times just to get out of tearing off.
They supply materials, tear off existing and take care of clean up & waste removal, while I handle any wood work and install the new roof system.

I had a couple who wanted to take care of the wood work & underlayment as well but I wouldn't do that because mistakes in either of those areas could cause problems with my shingles.

They legally save a few bucks that can be spent elsewhere and I still make my money because all my mark up is attached to labor rather then to materials or waste removal, etc, like many other contractors I know do.

As far as them getting all they have coming, when the home owner is going to act as the general they need to get three estimates from contractors and the adjuster determines the pay out off of those.
It's legal unless you get caught asking contractors to boost their bids/estimates, had one home owner get turned in by a pee'd off contractor (pee'd off because he didn't get the job), not sure what happened tho because I ended up not getting the job either.

Never seen that, but it would make sense. Around here the cheapo's get the first check and try to get the repairs done at Xactimate prices minus their deductible and depreciation. Usually these are done by fly by nights or weekend warriors. This just saves the multi billion dollar insurance company even more money on the claim being they don't pay depreciation. Also usually ends up that the homeowner gets a sub-par job.....in the end, roofers in general get a bad rap.
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Old 09-22-2011, 06:18 AM   #18
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Never seen that, but it would make sense. Around here the cheapo's get the first check and try to get the repairs done at Xactimate prices minus their deductible and depreciation. Usually these are done by fly by nights or weekend warriors. This just saves the multi billion dollar insurance company even more money on the claim being they don't pay depreciation. Also usually ends up that the homeowner gets a sub-par job.....in the end, roofers in general get a bad rap.

We have the crappy subs in my area also and I do sometimes think they out number the legit.

Last year I did a repair for a 92 year old widow a couple towns north east of me, ends up a Siding, Windows and Insulation company "large operation" decided to take on some roofing during the slow period of work and hired a sub to handle it.
After it leaked the well known large company sent a repair tech out (not a roofing repair tech) who ended up smearing some roof cement around here and there at the bottom of a valley, with no luck on stopping the leak.
After several calls and hearing them say, we will be there asap, she called a different roofer (self employed) who came out and smeared some more roof cement over the existing roof cement but still did not stop the leak.
So she called the reputable company again and when she mentioned she had some one else look at it also because she was worried about her ceiling caving in, they told her the warranty was void and she's on her own.

She found me through a friend of a friend, turns out the valley shingles were never leaking, the chimney 2 feet away was...

You gotta watch your back no matter if it's a sub, contractor or a business you hire.
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I went over to the supplier this morning to finalize the deal and I mentioned I would have preferred IR (Impact Resistant) but they just cost (with Tamko or GAF) too much..The counterman played with his computer and said "we have some CertainTeed Landmark Lifetime IR for $XXx /square...Since the main reason I'm replacing the roof is hail damage, I felt the extra cost was reasonable, about 20% more..They will deliver the shingles tomorrow to the ridge of my roof and THEY will stack them up! That alone was worth the extra money! I'll see if I can figure out how to post a before and after picture!
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Thanks guys...! Picture of old roof, 30 year old T-Locks, badly hail damaged..


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