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timber 12-31-2007 05:17 PM

calling Ed the roofer & other roof experts
 
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A while ago I put in a thread about the shingles in the roof valleys not looking right and you needed some pics to let me know if these valleys were shingled correctly. If you recall I said that I was getting a lot of debris underneath them and I feared that this would start to rot out my shingles or my roof. Nothings leaking but I constantly have to blow the debris out from underneath these things. Can you see what I'm talking about from these pics? Thanks in advance for the help.

AtlanticWBConst. 12-31-2007 05:19 PM

UGH!!!:eek: .... = NO!

ron schenker 12-31-2007 05:23 PM

I'm no expert but I think they should have used flashing instead of shingles.

LawnGuyLandSparky 12-31-2007 05:52 PM

1- The shingles weren't properly woven.

2- Once reinstalled properly, the debris trapped in the valley will be a continual problem until you cut back the trees that are dropping their waste onto the roof.

timber 12-31-2007 06:07 PM

Lawnguy, that's exactly what I thought, I can't imagine shingle edges being laid like this because all they do is trap stuff under them. I knew they weren't right! This dude that owned this place was a total knucklehead! So what are my options? I don't mind cleaning debris off the roof regularly, that's one of the trade offs of living in a wooded lot, I am an arborist after all, I like the trees, I just hate 1/2#%*ssed work! How long do you think I have before this really becomes a problem? Nothings leaking and I constantly check the roof in the attic for any leaks.

LawnGuyLandSparky 12-31-2007 06:09 PM

Just call a roofer - it's a 1 - 2 hour fix. You're not getting leaks but that doesn't mean rain isn't getting under the overlap, and running down the roofing felt, and probably always moist.

timber 12-31-2007 06:16 PM

A 1-2hr fix? That doesn't sound too bad. Is it just a matter of cutting and tucking or adding some, or are you talking putting in one of those little gutters that goes down the center like all the other houses in our neighborhood.

the roofing god 01-01-2008 12:10 AM

hopefully it`s a 1/2 hr fix,looks like crap,If the shingles are laid like that,they are probably not nailed properly to be cut back to off center of the valley---you may have to remove the valley shingles on each side ,and redo it which will take much longer-no matter how you look at it,It`s not done to the standard of the craft !This is what closed woven valleys should look like:
http://www.rooferscoffeeshop.com/ima...338/dean-6.jpg

the roofing god 01-01-2008 12:18 AM

don`t have a close up,but when one side is weaved up,and the other is cut,it should look like this:
http://www.rooferscoffeeshop.com/ima...43a[1].jpg

the roofing god 01-01-2008 12:20 AM

the open copper valley is always the best looking though(+most expensive):
http://www.rooferscoffeeshop.com/ima...16a[1].jpg

ron schenker 01-01-2008 08:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by the roofing god (Post 84429)
the open copper valley is always the best looking though(+most expensive):
http://www.rooferscoffeeshop.com/ima...16a[1].jpg

That's what I was thinking of. This looks right.

timber 01-01-2008 09:11 AM

Thanks everbody! roofing god, that's how I would expect it to look, that looks nice! There's 2 valleys that need to be done. Man I wish I could do this myself. Now I'm a little worried about the rest of the roof. I'll contact someone tomorrow! Thanks again!

LawnGuyLandSparky 01-01-2008 02:36 PM

There's nothing wrong with a woven valley if it's done right. Nothing wrong with exposed flashing, copper or otherwise either, as long as it's done right. Yours just happens to be done wrong. "Like all the other houses in the neighborhood" is not a roofing code.

the roofing god 01-01-2008 03:41 PM

that`s why you see 3 alternative right ways to do it,bottom line wrong is wrong

AtlanticWBConst. 01-01-2008 03:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by the roofing god (Post 84426)
hopefully it`s a 1/2 hr fix,looks like crap,If the shingles are laid like that,they are probably not nailed properly to be cut back to off center of the valley---you may have to remove the valley shingles on each side ,and redo it which will take much longer-no matter how you look at it,It`s not done to the standard of the craft !This is what closed woven valleys should look like:

R.G. touches on the point of that area not being done right, but very wrong.

Sorry to bring this up, but: I'd be concerned about the rest of the roof's installation after seeing something as wrong as that....


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