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Old 10-29-2013, 02:35 PM   #1
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Anyone ever do board and batten using cement board siding (panels then attaching "battens" vertically)? Or what about vinyl board and batten? We have a farmhouse so I think it would look okay, just wondered if there were pros/cons to it.

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We have done it.

Pros to fiber cement is that it looks more realistic. Cons are that its more expensive and more labor intensive.

The vinyls have come a long way towards looking good.

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We have done it.

Pros to fiber cement is that it looks more realistic. Cons are that its more expensive and more labor intensive.

The vinyls have come a long way towards looking good.
Yeah, those were my initial thoughts too. I've always leaned towards using cement board but saw some pics of vinyl b&b and thought it looked pretty good considering it was vinyl.

Did you screw or nail the battens? Did you caulk all the seams created by the battens, or only on the battens that cover a panel to panel seam? Just curious as to some of the specifics. I haven't found a good resource online. Seems pretty straightforward, but everything does before you start
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I've done it a few times, it looks real nice if done right. One detail I do is use 5/4 trim on the windows with 1x battens. I don't like the battens to terminate flush into other trim. The different thicknesses adds depth and looks much better than flush imo.

I do caulk the battens but it's more for a seamless paint line than anything else. No screws anywhere.

Not a fan of vinyl b&b. It might be ok for an accent in a gable or something but I wouldn't do a whole house in it.
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DO NOT USE VINYL, BOARD and BATTEN!!!
If you want to -
Go ahead!

Make sure the "WRB" is installed correctly and the flashing details are correct!

Use cement board.

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DO NOT USE VINYL, BOARD and BATTEN!!!
If you want to -
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Make sure the "WRB" is installed correctly and the flashing details are correct!

Use cement board.
You don't have an opinion there do you.
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You don't have an opinion there do you.
Opinion???
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So what, if not screws, did you attach the battens with? Also are there any concerns or cons to installing b&b siding with a traditional lap method?
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7d ring shank siding (small head) nails.


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Also are there any concerns or cons to installing b&b siding with a traditional lap method?
Depends on what your version of a "traditional lap method" is.
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7d ring shank siding (small head) nails.

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Depends on what your version of a "traditional lap method" is.
I just meant siding run horizontally where each peace overlaps the next all the way up.

If I chose hard-panels or something similar, I assume you nail 12" o.c. and then cover the nails with the battens??

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You install Hardie Panels in the same fashion as plywood sheathing, there is no overlapping.

The vertical seams break on the studs, all of the battens are nailed to the studs also. The stud layout dictates the batten layout.

If you need to stack sheets you'd use z metal flashing on top of the lower sheet and hold the top sheet up a 1/4 off that flashing.

I don't remember the exact nailing schedule for the panels but you will find that info and more here.
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So what, if not screws, did you attach the battens with? Also are there any concerns or cons to installing b&b siding with a traditional lap method?
You could try splitless, ring-shank, siding nails -
you'll have to pre-drill the holes, though.
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You install Hardie Panels in the same fashion as plywood sheathing, there is no overlapping.

The vertical seams break on the studs, all of the battens are nailed to the studs also. The stud layout dictates the batten layout.

If you need to stack sheets you'd use z metal flashing on top of the lower sheet and hold the top sheet up a 1/4” off that flashing.

I don't remember the exact nailing schedule for the panels but you will find that info and more here.
Yep, this makes sense. Thanks. So, my house is very old and the stud location is not 16" o.c., more like 19" or thereabouts. The sheathing are true 1xs run horizontally. Can I still install the panels and not worry about where they land on studs? If not, I suppose I could run horizontal strapping to make sure I have a solid sub surface.

I checked the hardie specs and 24" o.c. is minimum spacing. I'd originally thought about adding a layer of rigid insulation and running furring strips....but I couldn't find information on using rigid foam and vertical siding.


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