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Old 09-26-2009, 02:56 PM   #16
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Don't know where to go with this. I currently have Certainteed 25 yr. shingle and the house is going on 13yrs. Lawsuit with Certainteed is almost over. I keep hearing Certainteed is still the brand to go with since any issues with the shingle shoud have been corrected since installation. Why would I risk puting these back on my house? Just had a contractor out yesterday and they offer the Owens Corning in the same style I currenlty have. I'm in the Chicagoland area and am looking for any advice.

The blog's I read on this site are all over the place. It seems that it is all personal preferrence and its just the luck of the draw as to whether or not your shingle lasts a long time.
What was the determination on the cause of failure?

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Old 04-27-2010, 10:51 PM   #17
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hey guys didnt CERTAINTEED have problems with the lawsuit because they used "organic" materials for the shingle? my contarctor is offering CT landmarks or IKO,, from what im reading the IKO is not highly reccomended.. does anyone know if the landmarks are made of the "organic" crap? and from what ive read the landmarks are not part of the problems that CT had,, also if i may ask im considering a color change i now have a lite grey shingle, im thinking about the "MIORE BLACK certainteed, has anyone any info on how much this will affect the temp on the second floor < i live in a two story high ranch in new york > any help would be appreciated !
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Old 05-01-2010, 12:37 PM   #18
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Landmarks are not included in the lawsuit.
With proper ventilation and insulation, the roof color won't make a difference in temp inside the house. Your Contractor should explain that to you. You should trust your contractor over anything someone says on a DIY website. If you don't trust him, you should find another Contractor that you do trust.
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Don't know where to go with this. I currently have Certainteed 25 yr. shingle and the house is going on 13yrs. Lawsuit with Certainteed is almost over. I keep hearing Certainteed is still the brand to go with since any issues with the shingle shoud have been corrected since installation. Why would I risk puting these back on my house? Just had a contractor out yesterday and they offer the Owens Corning in the same style I currenlty have. I'm in the Chicagoland area and am looking for any advice.

The blog's I read on this site are all over the place. It seems that it is all personal preferrence and its just the luck of the draw as to whether or not your shingle lasts a long time.
From what I understand about the Certainteed lawsuit, only one or two of Certainteed's products were defective. While I don't approve of Certainteed's handling of that situation, the indications I'm getting is that they don't intend to let it happen again. The models that failed prematurely were never popular in my area, so little of that comes into play here. But, I've had one warranty problem with Certainteeds since the lawsuit started and they bent over backward to solve it quickly and went WAY above and beyond their obligation.

Will they continue in this mode? Don't know, but hopefully they've learned from their mistakes. You reckon Toyota will notice a pattern in repairs and not issue a recall a little quicker next time?

My local experience (and this can be swayed by the local sales/warranty reps and the regional factories) is that Tamko produces a top notch product (never had a warranty claim on them, so I don't know how they act when faced with one), Certainteed is right on top of any new problems, OC will try to find any way to blame the installer, and GAF will try to wear you down by ignoring you and not showing up.

Iko's and Atlas are barely represented here and Malarkey's are not sold here, so I don't have enough experience with them to comment.
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does anyone know if the landmarks are made of the "organic" crap? and from what ive read the landmarks are not part of the problems that CT had,, also if i may ask im considering a color change i now have a lite grey shingle, im thinking about the "MIORE BLACK certainteed, has anyone any info on how much this will affect the temp on the second floor < i live in a two story high ranch in new york > any help would be appreciated !
Only a few 3 tabs still use an organic felt to the best of my knowledge.

A lighter color shingle will operate at a slightly lower temperature, but not enough to base your color decision on. Your comfort level on the second floor should be a function of proper insulation and/or proper venting, not roof color. However, roof color could effect the comfort level if the insulation/venting is subpar.
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hey guys didnt CERTAINTEED have problems with the lawsuit because they used "organic" materials for the shingle? my contarctor is offering CT landmarks or IKO,, from what im reading the IKO is not highly reccomended.. does anyone know if the landmarks are made of the "organic" crap? and from what ive read the landmarks are not part of the problems that CT had,, also if i may ask im considering a color change i now have a lite grey shingle, im thinking about the "MIORE BLACK certainteed, has anyone any info on how much this will affect the temp on the second floor < i live in a two story high ranch in new york > any help would be appreciated !
The settlement agreement covers only organic shingles, which the company made from July 1, 1987 through 2005, and then discontinued manufacturing and selling several years ago. The shingles in the agreement were sold with the brand names Hallmark Shangle, Independence Shangle, Horizon Shangle, Custom Sealdon, Custom Sealdon 30, Sealdon 20, Sealdon 25, Hearthstead, Solid Slab, Master Slab, Custom Saf-T-Lok/Saf-T-Lok, and the Custom Lok 25.
The settlement does not include CertainTeed's fiberglass shingles Centennial Slate or Landmark. Nor does the settlement include the fiberglass formulations of Horizon, Independence, Hallmark, and Hearthstead shingles.
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The major brands are within "spitting distance" of each other in regards to quality. Most of the problems we experience are more related to installation and ventilation. Make sure the roofer tears the old roof down to the deck and replaces any rot, then lay down a good felt (Gorilla Guard, ShingleMate, etc.) as opposed to cheap 15# felt. Use lead boots/pipe jacks instead of 3-in-one's, and some sort of ice/water shield (metal or tar-rubber) in the valleys, and if you live in a windy area use more nails per shingle and/or consider stepping up to a higher rated shingle. Use a ridge vent if you have sufficient ridge length instead of turbines. Poor ventilation not only raises the cost of A/C, but causes damage to the shingles by overheating and causing blistering that will burst the granules off the shingles and leave tiny little exposed asphalt holes that look like hail damage to the untrained eye.

But for the original question, Certainteed is usually a pretty good brand, and there will always be a "lemon batch" at some point from every manufacturer.
GAF, Tamko and OC are all pretty close and will usually last as intended provided they are installed properly.

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