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Old 11-03-2011, 07:56 PM   #16
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Stick to your guns. Get that OC inspection. You hired somebody to give you a roof. You're still waiting for a roof and haven't gotten one yet. No service has been performed to date.

Here, the client only pays when the service is performed. And contractors have certain standards of ethics and performance to adhere to if they want to keep their license.

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Old 11-04-2011, 07:10 AM   #17
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Calling the entire roof a failure due to two shingles you found unacceptable from the ladder is not a good idea.

Example: I had a new construction roof install inspected in Orlando, Florida in 1992 and the inspector failed the roof claiming misplaced fasteners, I was a crew leader at the time, not a contractor.
My boss sent me back to the job and made me re-nail the entire roof, second time around the inspector flunked the roof again for the exact same reason.
My boss was furious at me and the other 4 guys on my crew, UNTIL, he spoke with the inspector himself instead of the city official.
The guy had never went on to the roof, it was a steep pitch, what he had done was look/reach out a dormer window and found a few misplaced fasteners in a few shingles directly outside of three different dormers.
The reason for the fasteners being placed roughly a couple nail heads width high across the front of the dormers was due to a gap in the sheathing that the framers left, but, being that area would be covered by head wall flashing once the siding was installed we thought it was acceptable, the inspector agreed once he knew why it had been done that way.


Maybe you should push harder for a full roof inspection before you let this go further.
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Old 11-05-2011, 11:44 AM   #18
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Calling the entire roof a failure due to two shingles you found unacceptable from the ladder is not a good idea.

Example: I had a new construction roof install inspected in Orlando, Florida in 1992 and the inspector failed the roof claiming misplaced fasteners, I was a crew leader at the time, not a contractor.
My boss sent me back to the job and made me re-nail the entire roof, second time around the inspector flunked the roof again for the exact same reason.
My boss was furious at me and the other 4 guys on my crew, UNTIL, he spoke with the inspector himself instead of the city official.
The guy had never went on to the roof, it was a steep pitch, what he had done was look/reach out a dormer window and found a few misplaced fasteners in a few shingles directly outside of three different dormers.
The reason for the fasteners being placed roughly a couple nail heads width high across the front of the dormers was due to a gap in the sheathing that the framers left, but, being that area would be covered by head wall flashing once the siding was installed we thought it was acceptable, the inspector agreed once he knew why it had been done that way.

Maybe you should push harder for a full roof inspection before you let this go further.
The underlayment is on Vertically! They went around the dish network satalite mounted on the roof! I can get around the whole house and everywhere I look there are only three nails. I have shingles falling off in one spot. I am not a roofer so it took me three days to realize that I saw them lay the felt vertical. I watched them nail some of the roof and they only were putting in three nails. I didn't know what was required, that is the contractors job. The insurance guy that inspected the roof told me that they used the sealing strip for their target for the nails and this negates the wind warranty that OC has on the shingle.
Further inspection will only be to document it for the courts to side on my behalf. The company even sent two guys out at seperate times to inspect and both said that the roof needed to be torn off and replaced. The only hold up is they wont put anything in writing and I don't trust the owners any longer. They have lied to me everytime I talked to them as well as in the original contract. I wouldn't put it past them to show up and take the materials off my roof and leave.
I DON'T TRUST THEM ANY LONGER.
tony

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Old 11-05-2011, 07:42 PM   #19
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The underlayment is on Vertically! They went around the dish network satalite mounted on the roof! I can get around the whole house and everywhere I look there are only three nails. I have shingles falling off in one spot. I am not a roofer so it took me three days to realize that I saw them lay the felt vertical. I watched them nail some of the roof and they only were putting in three nails. I didn't know what was required, that is the contractors job. The insurance guy that inspected the roof told me that they used the sealing strip for their target for the nails and this negates the wind warranty that OC has on the shingle.
Further inspection will only be to document it for the courts to side on my behalf. The company even sent two guys out at seperate times to inspect and both said that the roof needed to be torn off and replaced. The only hold up is they wont put anything in writing and I don't trust the owners any longer. They have lied to me everytime I talked to them as well as in the original contract. I wouldn't put it past them to show up and take the materials off my roof and leave.
I DON'T TRUST THEM ANY LONGER.
tony
I was just making sure you weren't jumping the gun Sir.

It's sad to say, but, your story is not that rare, contractors have a boom of work come in due to storms, new industry to the area, etc., and they end up trusting their work to subcontractors rather then loosing the jobs and poor workmanship issues pop up and they fail to deal with the situations properly.

Good Luck Sir.

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