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Old 07-17-2012, 11:23 PM   #31
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Lookin good lionscourt!I would put bird blocking on your walls. http://countryplans.com/smf/index.php?topic=5731.0 Scroll down a little and you will see the bird blocks. Also, not sure if you can see it in the photo, you need to cut a 1 1/2'' x 3 1/2'' notch on your last rafter so you can put your 2x4 outrigger to give yourself an overhang on your sloped walls.-- You don't really need the H2.5 ties on the beam, for your situation it would just be better to cut 14 1/2'' x 2 x 6 blocks , standing them upright in between your rafters. Any questions just ask .

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Old 07-18-2012, 10:33 AM   #32
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Lookin good lionscourt!I would put bird blocking on your walls. http://countryplans.com/smf/index.php?topic=5731.0 Scroll down a little and you will see the bird blocks. Also, not sure if you can see it in the photo, you need to cut a 1 1/2'' x 3 1/2'' notch on your last rafter so you can put your 2x4 outrigger to give yourself an overhang on your sloped walls.-- You don't really need the H2.5 ties on the beam, for your situation it would just be better to cut 14 1/2'' x 2 x 6 blocks , standing them upright in between your rafters. Any questions just ask .
anything I should know about laying the plywood? does the 4x8plywood work better across rafters or going down the length of rafters? It is important to start in one corner and do rows across?

I looked up info on outriggers and understand the need to cut a notch out of last rafter. Is it just one notch at bottom or rafter or a notch for each outrigger for overhang?

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Old 07-18-2012, 10:53 AM   #33
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You will want all of your outriggers in place(outrigger every 4 feet on your raked walls) and you will want all of your fascia boards installed prior to sheeting your roof. It appears you started your joist layout from the center of the wall, so you will start your first row of sheeting from that point at the bottom of your rake. Lay your entire first row of sheeting cutting the two pieces on both sides of the structure. On the second row of sheeting you will stagger your seams 4ft( half of the 8 ft sheet). You want to lay your sheets perpendicular with your joist.
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Old 07-18-2012, 06:57 PM   #34
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Just apologizing if my earlier comments caused any confusion. I didn't look at the pix right and can only say the heat exhaustion must have been getting me worst than normal.
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You will want all of your outriggers in place(outrigger every 4 feet on your raked walls) and you will want all of your fascia boards installed prior to sheeting your roof. It appears you started your joist layout from the center of the wall, so you will start your first row of sheeting from that point at the bottom of your rake. Lay your entire first row of sheeting cutting the two pieces on both sides of the structure. On the second row of sheeting you will stagger your seams 4ft( half of the 8 ft sheet). You want to lay your sheets perpendicular with your joist.
Today didn't go that well or according to plan. The 'help' placed several rafters upside down (i mitered back of them for vertical facia) which led a misalignment of whole back row and a hole lot of of pulling nails. In the end I felt like not much got done. I had hoped to be done with the outriggers and on to working on to bird blocks (do i still need them if I plan on framing in vents?).

In the end my back row of rafters are slightly misaligned but did get a good start on blocking. Tomorrow I'm getting an early start and should have pics of plywood sheeting to roof. I downloaded some pictures of outriggers to my phone so am excited about doing that element tomorrow. Thanks E1!
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Old 07-19-2012, 12:22 AM   #36
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Are your studs nailed together in the corner? can see daylight through.
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Old 07-20-2012, 12:05 AM   #37
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Here's latest pics. Girlfriend came over and distracted me with a picnic lunch but got more done anyway.
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You will want all of your outriggers in place(outrigger every 4 feet on your raked walls) and you will want all of your fascia boards installed prior to sheeting your roof. It appears you started your joist layout from the center of the wall, so you will start your first row of sheeting from that point at the bottom of your rake. Lay your entire first row of sheeting cutting the two pieces on both sides of the structure. On the second row of sheeting you will stagger your seams 4ft( half of the 8 ft sheet). You want to lay your sheets perpendicular with your joist.
It would seem to me that it would be better to have one long continuous board for fascia---rather than splicing two 8ft boards (they dont have 20ft fascia at Lowes--you have to special order the longer boards). Splicing two boards would be difficult to attach to outriggers right at seam of fascia?

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It would be better to have one piece fascia, but even if you do go to your local lumber yard you would want to put a block mid span along your rake wall outriggers to keep it from rolling.. To do this, lets say your overhang on the rake walls are 12''. You would just cut a 12'' 2x6 and nail it to your outrigger standing upright and then nail it through the backside of the gable rafter. Make sense? If not I will find a photo for clarification.
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It would be better to have one piece fascia, but even if you do go to your local lumber yard you would want to put a block mid span along your rake wall outriggers to keep it from rolling.. To do this, lets say your overhang on the rake walls are 12''. You would just cut a 12'' 2x6 and nail it to your outrigger standing upright and then nail it through the backside of the gable rafter. Make sense? If not I will find a photo for clarification.
yes. nail it along side the outrigger and into outside (gable) rafter. Thanks!
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working on fascia board then roof.....
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Old 07-23-2012, 12:21 AM   #42
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could only get a couple hours in today but put fascia up to get some measurements right, and drill miter'd cuts then took it down to prime and paint it.
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Old 07-26-2012, 03:22 AM   #43
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Day 8 and Bird Bloks
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Day9 Started huckin' 4x8's up a ladder to the roof today and getting them nail down. Will send pics from on top tomorrow. Laying felt by mid day.
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ok...got plywood down on roof. first time doing it so was a learning process. There were a few areas with slight gaps. anything i should be worried about other than nails in gaps??? on to felt and shingles tomorrow.
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