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Old 03-27-2012, 10:50 AM   #16
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Lets end the ugly. All installers have their favorite.
I have laid on CDX, Luan, AC Exterior, underlayment board, old tile, old vinyl, you name it. And never had a failure.
I've heard of denials because the nails were the wrong type (valid) even nail placement off by 1/4".
Almost everytime they blame the installer. That is really their guarantee...they will blame you.
Go to the manufacturer's web or customer service and get their requirements. That's the only chance to get warranty coverage.
Lets not call each other names. We are the net's version of the pickle barrel at the hardware store. Never agreeing and plenty horror stories of jobs gone wrong.
It's ok to disagree and if we do it nicely it's acceptable.
Bottom line...the manufacturer has the facts!

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The reason CDX is not the right grade to use has very little to do with what you see with your eyes. CDX is "sheathing", not underlayment grade. That means the surface can have knots, but the main problem is voids within the plies where you can not see. Put something heavy on that spot and it'll make a dent. Plus the over-all grade of wood is lower.

Every item made by man has grades for a reason. I know it's tempting to buy the $12 sheet when the $18 is the right one. And of course you're liable to get away with it, but that does not make it right or the person doing the work a pro.

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Aren't ac - Bc and cdx exterior rated there (they're) in the same family just which one is the smoothest ac yes but cdx can be just as smooth if sanded.
Ridiculous. If they were the same there wouldn't be a need for 3 grades. Don't you "see" the voids in the CDX?

* Sorry about the tenor of some of the posts. But it only happens when a member who has no qualifications gives off the wall answers which makes this forum look like it's run by a bunch of hacks. We have a responsibility to give good advise based on specifications and industry norms.

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Yeah Jaz on paper yeah better yet on screen there's voids but really?... I'll stick to my guns on this one with having use cdx.
You cant convince me by using the word voids take a look at this post apparently I'm not the only one who thinks differently or will continue to use it.

http://www.johnbridge.com/vbulletin/...php/t-618.html

The criticism here is what will drive the ones who do need help away.

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I'm not the only one who thinks differently or will continue to use it.
You should re-read that thread again. Funny but I happen to know or know of all five of those guys. Got pitcers taken with them xcept with Rob.

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You should re-read that thread again. Funny but I happen to know or know of all five of those guys. Got pitcers taken with them xcept with Rob.

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I knew that you know them jaz before I posted that link. You and John bridge go hand and hand which is really cool! I stick to what I know and has gotten me far in the trade, although it's not liked by respectable tile masters like you and John, I apologize but I see a big difference about how to tell some one how it's wrong nicely and telling some one they got there experience with tile and flooring out of a cracker jack box so to speak. I hope we can move foreword with this.
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Hello. I have read over the forum, but I am still confused. We want to lay self stick vinyl tile over the existing sheet vinyl, but I am not sure how to prepare the floor. I know we have to clean it very well, but I'm not sure if we have to prime it with something like HENRY 1-Quart Bond Enhancer Self Stick Tile Primer or us a leveler such as HENRY 10 lbs Universal Patch and Skimcoat. Any recommendations would be appreciated. Thank you!
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Use the primer. Just be aware that all imperfections, no matter how small will show thru the tile. And peel and stick will not last long anyway. It tends to shrink over time and most of it isn't square, so you end up with gaps.
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Thank you so much for the advice. We have decided to so with sheet vinyl.

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