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Old 03-19-2011, 06:30 AM   #1
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so the kerdi is up and the ditra is down, it's time to tile...

laying 18 x 18 porcelain on the floor, 12 x 18 on the walls and some pebble type on the shower floor.

a few quick questions:

can I use a 1/4 x 3/8 trowel to lay the pebble sheets?
or should I use 1/2 x 1/2

secondly do I have the right order:

shower floor
shower walls
inside of shower curb
main floor
outside of shower curb (where it meeets the main floor)
marble pieces to hold the glass on top of curb
marble pieces to hold the glass on walls

and finally:

can I lay all field tiles first and then come back in a few days and do my cuts?
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Old 03-19-2011, 07:12 AM   #2
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1/4 x 3/8 should be fine for the pebble tile---you might want to smooth out the trowel marks with the flat side of the your trowel to prevent excess 'squeeze up' .

Do your cuts as you go.----Why would you leave the cuts out? That is adding 5 times the work----

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Old 03-19-2011, 10:31 AM   #3
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That trowel is likely to give you problems with the stone tiles. A 1/4" square should work much better.

The order of work is fine, some would not install the shower floor first though. (me) So that you're not standing on just installed tiles why not start with the second row of wall tiles. Then in the end set the floor and then the last row.

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Hi Jaz,

I've got a 1/4 square and will use that

gonna go set my ledger boards right now and start with the shower wall.
then the floor. Good suggestion.
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so this isn't really fun....carpentry is much better...

\thinset too thin, then too thick....dropping it all over the place.
Keeping grout lines clean though and using a sponge to keep everything else clean and neat.
Minor lippage all over the place, mostly where the kerdi overlaps, but for 1/32" I'm not concerned, 'cause this is my first tile set ever..

But a question regardless:

When do I take down the ledger boards? 24 hours? 1 hour?
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A few hours is plenty, some leave em overnight but you may want to reuse it.

Be sure to patch or squeeze a small gob of silicone in the holes from the ledger.

Well yea.....ya gotta get the consistency right. Keep the joints clean with soft sponge, piece of cardboard and /or utility knife.

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been using a wood shim to clean the lines and it seems to be going well. Following up after with a sponge.

I guess I just can't expect perfect on my first shot eh...

Will use a small piece of kerdi to patch.

How do you guys do this every day? I am covered in thinset and so is my floor....
A little frustrating but I am getting better. I suppose my last tile will be flawless..

I have step by step pics from the beginning and will add to another post I have to maybe help someone in the future.

(beer time soon...)
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so a question...

I'm gonna hafta pick some grout soon.
my lines are 1/8 except for one darn joint...one of the corners has a 1/4 inch gap..
yes, thats right, the width of two grout lines.....

since I will be unsing an unsanded grout for the whole bathroom (floor included) what do I do with this one joint?
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Willie,
Caulk the corners with caulk that matches the grout. All the corners should be caulked. If you try and grout them, the grout will work loose over time.
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and now a question on tile baseboard...

Is it common practice to use PL construction adhesive to apply the tile baseboard?

I will be tiling the floor first and will come back a few days later and finish off the baseboard.
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just a bump to get some validation...

Is it common practice to use PL premium to adhere the tile baseboard pieces?

I would also like to run a thin strip of tile on the ceiling 3" wide. Can I use the PL for this as well?
no membrane on the ceiling, just the drywall...

Thanks for all the tips as always..

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You will be fine using the PL premium----however any squeeze out will be a drag to remove--that stuff get hard---xylene (goof off) is the best way to remove any smear that gets on the face.

I might suggest tile mastic for the base---much softer and easier to clean up any squeeze up.
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thanks Mike.

I tel ya, those pebble tiles were a PITA.
Lots of squeeze out and a real pain to get nice joints ready for grout...
I guess a stiff bristle brush will work..I'll let the thinset set up for a bit and the try the bristle brush.

I really hope they all stick for good.
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Squeeze up is a pain---no other word for it---don't get aggressive and dislodge the tiles---clean it while it's fresh --or leave it until the mud is set----Mike---
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went lightly with a wire brush, tilting it on an angle to get in between the pebbles.
used a broom after to clean up and smooth out a little more in between.

now I question the grout.
must use sanded is my presumtion being that there are some spaces greaer than 1/4 inch..

thoughts?

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