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Old 12-09-2011, 11:54 AM   #31
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Tiling backsplash over laminate????


Wait, what? I'm looking, essentially, to smooth out a plaster wall with 60-year-old adhesive stuck to it--then, we can paint the wall where the backsplash was (it's all over our kitchen--tiling it all, even if we wanted to, is not an option) and put up a narrow backsplash.

Does this make more sense?

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Old 12-09-2011, 12:00 PM   #32
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Okay, I thought you were removing laminate in preparation to install a tile backsplash.

If that's not the plan then you don't want to use thinset after-all.

Whose pictures are those shown and why are you tagging onto a two and half year old thread? Why do you also have another thread on the same topic?

What the heck are you doing?
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Old 12-09-2011, 12:03 PM   #33
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Sorry for the confusion. First, I had my own thread, after digging through the archives to see if the topic had been covered. Then I wanted to private message the guy who started this thread to see how his project worked out, but couldn't figure out how. So I thought if I posted onto this thread, I could possibly get some feedback from either him or the other folks who gave advice on this thread. And here we are. That other thread is mine, and that photo is of my wall. We do plan on putting up tile, but only about a 6" splash or so--and in some areas of our kitchen, we have laminate splash that's three feet tall. So essentially, I want to turn this mess that you see into a regular wall, suitable for both painting and tiling.
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Old 12-09-2011, 12:08 PM   #34
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Okay how about a fresh photo? Right here, no where else, don't change anything.
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Old 12-09-2011, 12:15 PM   #35
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For some reason, it won't let me post the images inside the thread.

This the same photo from the other thread:

http://i1186.photobucket.com/albums/...1/DSC02745.jpg

The stove was moved when a dishwasher was installed, and I suspect that's when the backsplash behind the stove went up--thus the older glue next to the stove, where the counter begins.

In this photo, you can (sort of) see how extensive this stuff is:

http://i1186.photobucket.com/albums/...DSC02609-1.jpg
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Still don't know what you have to work with at this time. The old photo is no longer accurate is it? The new photo is of the old laminate splash is it not?

This just keeps getting worse.

What is the current condition of the walls and has ALL of the old laminate been removed?
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Both photos are of the kitchen as it is today. I've only begun removing the laminate and stopped when I saw the old glue. The kitchen is square and the laminate runs along two complete walls. One wall--the one in the older photo--has a lot of laminate, because of the high, short cabinets. All of the laminate's still up in that section, as I've only taken it down over by the stove. My question pertains to the whole shebang--if, as I suspect, that old black glue is under most of the laminate (which at this time is still up), what can I do to make those walls paint- and tile-able? The kitchen has plaster walls underneath the laminate.
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Anything I have to say will be obvious at this point.

1. The old laminate must be removed.
2. Any splotches of old adhesive must be removed. Using a razor blade type scraper may peel the old adhesive and it may not.
3. It may be necessary to make a shallow cut around the splotches of adhesive in hopes that a scraper will then remove the splotches along with a layer or two of old paint - hopefully.
4. If this technique is successful then the damage can be repaired using joint compound.
5. Once the damage is filled with joint compound and sanded smooth the wall will be ready for either paint or tile.
6. Any place raw joint compound exists after sanding that is intended for tile should probably be primed with a primer paint to seal the joint compound. Tile adhesives don't like raw joint compound.

Hopefully we are getting somewhere.
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Thanks. Unfortunately, that stuff is stuck on the wall something fierce--the wall is unpainted beneath and a lot of the white, thin plaster is coming off when I can get the adhesive off. I'm debating on taking the laminate down and then calling in a plaster contractor to sort it out. I could try to remove the adhesive using solvents; I only wish there was a way to cover the darn stuff up without yanking out cabinets and counters and adding drywall. I suppose in a worst-case scenario, we put up more laminate
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The adhesive may be hard enough that it can be sanded-away. Try that. Once the humps and lumps are gone the wall can be skim-coated to renew its surface.
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I wondered about that and gave it a test drive--it did flatten the bumps out. When one skim coats, one uses drywall compound, right?

And please pardon my obvious newness to all of this. It's our first house. I'm handy, but this is a very different project from any I've done before.
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I wondered about that and gave it a test drive--it did flatten the bumps out. When one skim coats, one uses drywall compound, right?
Correct.

If you have sanded the worst of it you may be able to skim it now and have good results. Use a six or ten inch broad-knife to spread the joint compound.
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Will do. I"m still tearing it off of the walls. I also measured square footage in case I throw in the towel and get a bunch of subway tile instead

Thanks for your help.
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I have the laminate countertop as my backsplash also. My question with ripping it out is the electrical socket boxes. The laminate on the walls is 1 inch thick. If I rip it out, then the box is sticking out 1 inch and it does not seem to be able to be pushed into the wall. Any suggestions?
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Hi Atlantis,

It's best to start your own thread, next time.

Your laminate is bonded to a 3/4" board most likely. I bet they used outlet box extenders like this. http://www.google.com/imgres?q=elect...9,r:0,s:0,i:75

One way to find out.

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