Under the best of circumstances the flange sits atop the finished floor covering. If it does not, flange extensions and an additional wax seal can be used.
It doesn't hurt to cut around a flange when tiling but if the opportunity presents itself the flange should be on top.
I stand by what I said---tile around the flange--NEVER under it.
This has been discussed to death--Good luck trying to get a plumber to drill 6 holes into your new porcelain tile to screw the flange to the floor!
Putting the flange on top of the tile give you very little room for wax--none with some toilets--
I've been a bath remodeler for many years--this is the correct way.
What are the advantages to having the flange above the finished floor ?--Name one please.
The internet is loaded with bad advice--and plenty of pictures and drawing of things that are absolutely absurd-----
This is one point that keeps coming up--along with the same nonsense answers--Tile around the flange or find out the hard way why the old pros always do it this way.--M--
.....and the millions of toilets in bathrooms with thin vinyl flooring/floor covering? - how is that working if the flange being above the floor surface is an issue. The horn of a toilet is built so that it is recessed into the foot support of the toilet base about 3/8" so that the wax seal has room to seat and a place to expand. A closet-flange can easily be anywhere from 1/4" below the floor surface to 3/8" above the floor surface and still work without issues. :yes:
So,Tell me,Bud. When the new flange is installed on top of one of your tile installations--do you let the plumber drill into your work to install that flange?
Who pays if the plumber breaks the tile--who pays if you have to drive to the job ,just to drill 6 holes?
Jheeeeezh! Why do you like to argue so much about things you know you are wrong about? Where on earth did you get your training. Are you self-taught? Back off a little and I'll help you get through this.
So,Tell me,Bud. When the new flange is installed on top of one of your tile installations--do you let the plumber drill into your work to install that flange?
Who pays if the plumber breaks the tile--who pays if you have to drive to the job ,just to drill 6 holes?
Typically the plumber leaves the flange fitting for me and I install it. In some cases I use a plywood ring the size of the flange. In some cases I drill the holes through the tiles, In some cases the plumber installs the flange on the subfloor for me to tile-around and later he adds extensions.
In any case the flanges are always in their proper position elevated to 1/4" A.F.F. like they should be.
I'm not out to do battle with the plumbers and every other trade in the area. I am interested in co-operating and working together with all the trades and builders. We all have a good working relationship around here. We don't fight and argue like immature little children about such things.
I tile around the flange and then remove it and use an extender to bring it flushish with the new floor. I never drill through my finished tile.
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