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Old 02-24-2009, 06:56 PM   #31
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Not far, Hicksville here.
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Old 02-25-2009, 02:11 PM   #33
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Ah! Dad built a few developments back in the fifties over in that area. Birch wood estates. BOB.
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Hey RD, in case you haven't seen yet, a guy is looking for ya on contractortalk for a custom shower bid:
http://www.contractortalk.com/f73/an...land-ny-54194/
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Old 02-25-2009, 05:56 PM   #35
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Thanks, taken care of.
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Cool. Good luck with the job!
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Old 02-28-2009, 10:28 AM   #37
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You guys are a hoot....I'm across the bay from NY in Bayonne (have to add exit 14A on the turnpike...seems like a requisite for directions in NJ). All the advise that I've been given has really been an eye opener and made me a much smarter consumer. The area that I want to tile is 220 square feet, that's for the kitchen, a hallway, a small alcove that goes into a bedroom, inside the pantry, linen closet, under the refrigerator and under the stove. When you hire an electrician or plumber they have to be licensed and the work has to be inspected by the towns inspector so you know that it's being done right and up to code but in this area, anyone can set up shop and call themselves a tile setter. All they need to do is set up a company, get insurance and viola...they're in business, no guarantee that they know what they're doing. You would think that with loads of construction going on around here I would be able to find one company that knows what they're doing. I'm beginning to think that I should tackle the job myself. I've poured concrete for sidewalks, layed a patio and built a low brick retaining wall so I'm not without skills, it's just that the knees are not what they were five years ago. If you know of good tile setters in this area I would appreciate your recommendations.
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Yup may take you a while to find a good contractor, but on the other hand, you're basically interviewing them over the phone when you call them. Ask appropriate questions like what standards do you follow and of course references are gold.

That should weed out most.
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Old 04-15-2009, 03:10 PM   #39
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Hi all,
Any recommendations on finding a knowledgeable installer in the northern NJ area for a tile job? Need to get about 144 sf ft installed and am getting differing opinions on install method (mesh vs backerboard vs subfloor "true-up").

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Well, I hope someone here knows someone from your part of the world and can help you out; but whether they do or don't it's really down to you to find out which method is more suitable for your conditions and then find someone who sees it the same way.

I mean there's no "only" way, and there may be different opinions - but some problems have straighforward solutions. And remember that like most jobs, and in this case the 'tiling', or finish portion is only as good as the first part or the preparation of that job. Especially in tiling where we're talking about a covering medium that covers all misdeeds below it.

For example, first the floor must be deemed to be suitable for tiling; the the subfloor must be adequate, then the underlayment, then all the bits and pieces like trowel size, grout lines, grout used, size of tile etc all come into the game. Some may be personal preferences but most of these factors have been studied and turned into 'standards ' that any professional tiler would recognize and use.

It's a safety net for you both. tell us more about the entire system and we'll look into it.
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YellowJeepJeep-----I finally had my kitchen floor tiled after having 9 companies come in to give me quotes and tell me how they were going to do the job. I received prices that were astonomical to ones that were more reasonable. Most of the quotes I received were for tiles over backerboard applied with thin set. My subfloor was level and sound. The quotes I received were from $4900 to $1560. I chose the company that gave me a price of $1560. They provided the backerboard and the thin set, I purchased everything else. My porcelein floor tile, bull nose tile, grout, sealer and transition wood cost another $2060. I paid the installers $100 to pick up the supplies because the tile store I went to only had curb side delivery, everything would have had to be taken off the truck and brought into the house and I didn't see myself doing that. I had 250 square feet to cover, that includes a linen closet, a pantry, under the refrigerator and under the stove. Bull nose tile went under the cabinets. So all told the floor cost me $3620. The installer that I did hire did not dispose of the old flooring I had to do that myself and all but one installer wouldn't dispose of the flooring and garbage. The one installer that would get rid of the garbage was going to charge me a $400 container fee. I'm very pleased with the job that was done, a heck of a lot nicer then the pergo that was in the kitchen. This is my forever floor, when I die the next owner can change it if they want to.
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Are you implying the $1560 was comparable to the $4900 price? I can't believe that. The $4900 must have been a complete price....no? If not someone was counting with their toes.

Glad you finally got it installed and hopefully everything was done to your liking.

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Jazman:
The $4900 quote was for the same work that the $1560 quote was for. Some companies saw a woman, one that has white hair and must have thought that I didn't have a functioning brain in my head. I was given a "provisional" price by one company of $2400 but they wouldn't move the appliances, (how did they think they were going to tile under them?) if they had to remove the doors that was extra, then he went on to tell me that once he started the job it may cost more if he ran into problems, when I asked how much more, he said "could be as much as $1000"....but he would do a good job. Yeah he would do a good job on my check book. I ran into three companies that I considered shysters, wouldn't recommend them or give their names to anyone. I now have a fantastic plumber, roofer and an electrician along with a company that does tile work and refinishes wood floors. If I could find an honest carpenter I'd be set. As they say....Let the buyer beware. I used the information I received on this site along with some consumer sense and had an excellent job done at a fair price.....thanks to everyone.
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Can u use just thinset when tiling floors or Is wire mesh/scratch coat needed over 1/4 plywoodunderlayment with planked subfloor?

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Can u use just thinset when tiling floors or Is wire mesh/scratch coat needed over 1/4 plywoodunderlayment with planked subfloor?
Start a new thread this one is "years" old.

1/4" ply shouldn't be under tile, its not standards for subfloor or substrate.

Wire mesh method is another animal from regular substrate like cement board.

Start another thread if this didn't answer your questions.

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