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Old 09-16-2009, 03:15 PM   #1
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I want to redo the tile around my fireplace. Currently, it has a black marble tile and I want to replace it with Slate and also add Slate to the surrounding areas that currently do not have tile.




I am assuming it's best to REMOVE the current marble and then use thinset to lay the new slate. Someone told me to leave the marble and tile ON TOP of it. I was skeptical.

Do I have to do anything unique on the wall part?

Any ideas or suggestions?

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Old 09-20-2009, 10:30 PM   #2
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You may be able to tile-over the marble. Seriously scuff the marble (I'm sayin' ruin it big time) then use a modified thinset to set the slate.

The untiled wall areas shouldn't be a problem. There again, if they are painted, scuff'em and go for it.

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You may be able to tile-over the marble. Seriously scuff the marble (I'm sayin' ruin it big time) then use a modified thinset to set the slate.

The untiled wall areas shouldn't be a problem. There again, if they are painted, scuff'em and go for it.
I removed the bottom portion of tile because if I tiled the slate over it, it would make the tile height too high.

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Should I just remove the remaining sheet rock and replace it with another backerboard by screwing it to the plywood underlayment that is showing?


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The area above the fireplace has the marble tile still attached. It is deeply recessed, so I can leave the marble tile that is there and just tile OVER IT with the slate, correct?


What type of thinset should I use for that area?
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First of all that tile looks like granite to me not marble.

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Should I just remove the remaining sheet rock and replace it with another backerboard by screwing it to the plywood underlayment that is showing?
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The area above the fireplace has the marble tile still attached. It is deeply recessed, so I can leave the marble tile that is there and just tile OVER IT with the slate, correct?
Correct.

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What type of thinset should I use for that area?
Use a thinset rated for natural stone.
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First of all that tile looks like granite to me not marble.

Why?
Your probably right, it is granite.

As to why I would rip out the remaining drywall at the bast of the fireplace. In the picture where it shows the ripped up drywall. I removed the tile and it pulled the drywall with it. So I wanted a flat and secure base to install the new slate.

The fireplace sides will be left alone, no demo, just attaching slate to it. It was the base of the fireplace area that I removed the drywall because it ripped up sections when I removed the tile.
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I got a bag of the Mapei UltraFlex II.

When it states "properly primed gypsum", what do they mean?

I have 5/8" fire rated drywall that is screwed down to a plywood base. This is around the fireplace area. Does this mean I have to "primer" the drywall prior to using the thinset over it?
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Tile adhesives won't stick to an abundance of drywall joint compound. This relates to drywall inside/outside corners and seams. You shouldn't have any of that and shouldn't require any primer if you are working with pristine drywall.
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Well, here is the BEFORE and AFTER pics. Thanks to all who helped with the technical info and advice!
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Awesome!
Thanks. I don't own a wet saw, so I had to measure and take each piece to LOWES to have them cut. I've only laid tile about 6 times, so I am still a "rookie".
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