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Old 02-09-2010, 08:44 PM   #1
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Should I be scared to try self levelers?


I am renovating a small bath in my basement. It had old stick on tile that I have since removed and scraped the floor. The floor is very clean and seemed flat now and has no cracks.

But when I put tiles on there they were moving back and forth. It was then I put a big level and noticed big differences in the floor. It makes sense since it was the basement after all.

So I now have to get some self leveling product. Is this simple enough to do? I understand what to do and how, but I keep reading stories online from people who it did not work for and it ended up worse.

Are these people just not following directions?

Anyone have an idea what a contractor would charge to do a small 40 sq ft room?

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Old 02-09-2010, 09:28 PM   #2
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How much is a 'big difference' in the floor level? over what span? 2ft level or 4 ft?

Probably worth doing a levelling coat. It will make the tile install easier and likely turn out better.

Nothing worse than a tripping hazard on a wet floor.

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Old 02-09-2010, 10:25 PM   #3
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Here are pictures to help. Its always easier to see then read.

Here is the room in its current form:


And here is a pic showing the level:


This side has the gap, but the other side from mid point on is flat. Its like this in different parts of the room. It feels and looks level but its not. The entire room is less than 40 sq ft. Its about 6 ft by 6 ft.

Thanks again for any help.

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Is that a four foot level?
A quarter inch in four feet is not bad.
Novice attempts at self leveling often end up worse than what you're starting with.
If it were my own basement bath, I'd just tile it.
If you stick with 6 inch tiles or smaller, you'll have no problems. A bigger tile may not adjust as well, but with a little extra thinset, you may get away with it.
Just make sure you use a straight edge and get the tile around the toilet flange very flat so that the toilet doesn't rock.
If you're worried about big tile laying flat, then hire out the leveling and watch him do it so that you can do it yourself next time.

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If it were my own basement bath, I'd just tile it.
If you stick with 6 inch tiles or smaller, you'll have no problems. A bigger tile may not adjust as well, but with a little extra thinset, you may get away with it.
I wanted to do that but was unsure if its ok? Here is a youtube video I made of a piece of tile on the floor. If you guys think its a small enough difference to just use extra mortar than i will do so.



The tile is 12x12.

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Hard to say for sure from the video but I would say using a 1/4 X 3/8 trowel would handle most of that variance. I think I agree..."tile it".

What you have there is not that unusual.
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Thanks Bud! I appreciate the reply.

This is my first time tiling a floor so I was unsure if this was normal, or completely bad. I really appreciate your guys opinions.

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