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r.mills 11-19-2012 03:04 PM

Porcelan tile needing sealer???
 
Hi fellas, house is 2 years old and so is unglazed tile floors and shower surrounds. The tile looked nice and smooth in store but not so much in our house. Tiles look dirty all the time and so does grout. Is there a sealer that I can apply over tiles and grout??? Tile so rough that it shreds mop head apart. Looking for a "wet look"

JetSwet 11-19-2012 10:13 PM

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Originally Posted by r.mills
Hi fellas, house is 2 years old and so is unglazed tile floors and shower surrounds. The tile looked nice and smooth in store but not so much in our house. Tiles look dirty all the time and so does grout. Is there a sealer that I can apply over tiles and grout??? Tile so rough that it shreds mop head apart. Looking for a "wet look"

If its porcelin and highy porus then you can seal thd tile. Im concerned about the fact that if the tile is that rough then how is it on bare feet?...

r.mills 11-19-2012 10:20 PM

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If its porcelin and highy porus then you can seal thd tile. Im concerned about the fact that if the tile is that rough then how is it on bare feet?...

Its pretty rough. Looks like slate tile but its porcelan. It's not bad on bare feet. It's defently not a glazed smooth tile though. I have the sample tile still from the store and its fairly smooth and shiny. Guess there was a sealer applied to that one.

JetSwet 11-19-2012 10:28 PM

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Its pretty rough. Looks like slate tile but its porcelan. It's not bad on bare feet. It's defently not a glazed smooth tile though. I have the sample tile still from the store and its fairly smooth and shiny. Guess there was a sealer applied to that one.

You should be able to find a porcelin sealer at Home Depot or tile store.

JazMan 11-19-2012 10:37 PM

If the tiles are porcelain, they can not be porous, just rough. Sounds like the type of tiles that should not be used in a bath/shower, bad selection. The tiles are probably glazed, but it's a matte glaze. Glazed tiles do not have to be shiny.

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The tile looked nice and smooth in store but not so much in our house.
How is that possible? Maybe you got a different tile?

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Tiles look dirty all the time and so does grout.
Sounds like a maintenance issue to me. Do you not wipe the walls and floor after use? Ever?

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Tile so rough that it shreds mop head apart.
A mop? You don't use mops to clean bathroom floors. You gotta get down.:laughing:

Two ways to proceed without ripping all the tiles and starting from scratch.

Use a tile & grout cleaner. Then seal with a good penetrating sealer which will help keep moisture from absorbing into the grout and fill the microscopic pores of the tiles whether glazed or not. Or....

Clean as above, then apply a topical finish to give the tiles a gloss. They're available in varying gloss levels. But, this method means you'll have to keep applying the finish on a regular schedule to maintain the "look". I do not recommend this method, but you can get a gloss.

Jaz

r.mills 11-19-2012 10:53 PM

Yea ill check them guys out tomorrow. Just want make sure before I put it down that I'm using correct product. Not all Home Depot guys know but act like they do

r.mills 11-19-2012 11:25 PM

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JetSwet 11-20-2012 06:27 AM

Correct, porcelin tiles arent as porus as ceramic but im pretty shore that you can only tell by the bottom of the tile which will hold water on the tile and witch will propel the water off.

The rougher the tile the less glaze its going to have and you cant seal a high glazed tile.

Bud Cline 11-20-2012 04:30 PM

That particular tile is a good tile with a very high co-efficient-of-friction rating. This means it is one of the more "slip-proof" tiles. Good for floors but not necessarily good for a shower because of the surface texture. Mineral deposits from the water will build quickly and be difficult to clean.

That tile is not porous (as porous tiles go) and has only a 0.50% water absorption rating. All porcelain tiles have microscopic pores that can collect grout color pigment and discolor the tile slightly during the grouting process. Porcelain tiles don't require a sealer but in this case the tile could be sealed to make it easier to initially clean the grout from the surface. The sealer will however wear-off in the future do to cleaning methods. Just because the tile has a rough surface doesn't mean it isn't a glazed tile in this case.

Best way to clean those tiles in the future is with a mild soap/water solution and a fiber scrubbee - NO STRING MOPS.

r.mills 11-20-2012 04:34 PM

Right on, thanks. But i could apply a sealer type coat to give it more gloss? Like wet look. When they are washed and wet the tile looks so much better (can see all different colors/patterns) when tiles dry they look dirty no matter how hard they are scrubbed.

Bud Cline 11-20-2012 04:46 PM

When the tiles are dry they look "dirty" because the surface is holding some grout haze. Those tiles should pop their colors just like the samples do. I would first scrub the tiles with a "grout haze remover" and see if that helps. Clean the tiles and rinse them thoroughly. Any sealers you apply will become a routine maintenance issue and that isn't what porcelain tile is all about.

The tiles need a good cleaning. If the grout haze remover doesn't work then you can use a sealer if you want the ongoing issues. The word "sealer" may be the wrong choice of words in this case. What you want to use is a "stone enhancer" to bring out the colors of the tiles and provide a "wet-look". A sealer will only leave you with what you have now. Today's sealers (when they dry) take you back to what you had to begin with. A regular sealer will not enhance the colors but a stone-enhancer will.

r.mills 11-21-2012 01:37 AM

Right on, I'll look at hardware store for grout haze remover and stone enhancer. Is a stone enhancer gonna be a regular upkeep like if I tried a sealer?

Thanks

jeffnc 12-04-2012 08:39 PM

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Originally Posted by JetSwet (Post 1056504)
If its porcelin and highy porus then you can seal thd tile.

If it is actually porcelain, then by definition it is not "porus" (porous). Porcelain means not porous. Otherwise it is regular ceramic or something else.

This tile wasn't installed backward, was it? :no:

r.mills 12-04-2012 11:24 PM

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Originally Posted by jeffnc

If it is actually porcelain, then by definition it is not "porus" (porous). Porcelain means not porous. Otherwise it is regular ceramic or something else.

This tile wasn't installed backward, was it? :no:

Lol no not backwards. It is porcelean for sure. Guess I gotta live with it.

Anyone know how to keep black grout looking black? It's not acrylic grout. The grout was mixed with a product called "grout boost" was told using this that it doesn't need to be sealed


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