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Old 02-12-2011, 10:49 PM   #16
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The cracked tile didn't happen that long ago. I forget how it happened, I think my son might have smacked it with something.
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I don't think it is as bad as you guys think.
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Fill a spray bottle with clorox?
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The first row of tile behind the tub surround that runs the length of the tub has 5 or 6 tile that feel loose when I push on them.


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Anyway, I would think I should start taking out the tub surround and that first row of tile. Then if it is really bad I should be able to tell right there, right?
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I guess I could put in a fiberglass liner or something along those lines?
That is an option.

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I guess I just need to get started then I will know.
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Thanks again, I really appreciate all of the advice on this...
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Old 02-13-2011, 05:16 AM   #17
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If you want to try and get another year out of that----bleach it with 10% solution of bleach/water-

Take a utility knife and start scraping out the old grout---and then regrout using unsanded grout--

Those black tiles at the bottom were ,likely,added in the 1970s--they were sold as 'hiders' for folks with ugly caulk or a sloppy installation.

Just a word of caution---the wall holding up the tile is fragile--regrouting might knock off some tiles--


Lots of posts here on tiling----Bud has a nice informative blog "preparing a wall for tile" (blogs above in the task bar)--Mike---
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Old 02-13-2011, 06:02 PM   #18
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I used most of a can of scrubbing bubbles and a tile/grout scrubbing brush. Got it pretty good, then I sponged it with water to get rid of all the crud.

Then I got a 24 oz spray bottle. 10oz Clorox and 14 oz of warm water.

I sprayed it all down good and let it sit for about 30 minutes.

Then I filled the bottle with just warm water and sprayed everywhere where I had sprayed bleach then sponged it off.

I think it looks much better. The bleach made a big difference.

Whatever they put in at the bottom is some kind of caulking or something. It came right off with the brush so I didn't hit the tub surround real well. Didn't want it all apart yet.

You can see in the pics, the black tile at top and the white below. Then the pink tile. I didn't realize I wasn't showing the whole wall before.

I scrubbed a good bit of the little grout that was left, out. So I still need to do something soon.

I think I am still going to end up taking it all down. I might end up just putting in a liner. Seems like a lot of people do that. What is the general opinion on doing something like that? Maybe I should start a thread on that.

Anyway, I still plan on taking out the tub surround and the first row of tile first. So when I get to that point I'll post some more pics.

Thanks again for all of the help and advice. Much appreciated!!!

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Old 02-13-2011, 07:33 PM   #19
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Remarkable---a small box of white unsanded grout will fill in any missing grout---

Do your homework when considering a tub surround----start looking at the condition of tub surrounds when visiting peoples houses.

Tub surrounds age very quickly---that's the big draw back to the surrounds---

A proper tiled bath--using modern grout will look good for decades.--Mike--(tile lover)
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Remarkable---a small box of white unsanded grout will fill in any missing grout---

Do your homework when considering a tub surround----start looking at the condition of tub surrounds when visiting peoples houses.

Tub surrounds age very quickly---that's the big draw back to the surrounds---

A proper tiled bath--using modern grout will look good for decades.--Mike--(tile lover)
Thank you. So are you saying if I take out the surround and first row of tile, there is a way to put it back without the surround?

Obviously, I need to study up on this.

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Doug,

You cleaned that up very well, looks great, the wonders of modern chemistry, but remember in order for mold to grow it needs moisture given the fact that mold was growing deep in the cracks of that tile I would think you have moisture behind that tile, hence the thought that there is some rot back there to.

You can grout, and it may be good for a while, hope so, at least long enough for you to get things sorted out.

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You cleaned that up very well, looks great, the wonders of modern chemistry, but remember in order for mold to grow it needs moisture given the fact that mold was growing deep in the cracks of that tile I would think you have moisture behind that tile, hence the thought that there is some rot back there to.

You can grout, and it may be good for a while, hope so, at least long enough for you to get things sorted out.

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Thank you. I'm still taking out the first row to see what is going on back there.

I guess I'll decide what I'm going to do after that.
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That old wall is fragile--once you touch it it will be time to rip it back to the studs-----

I suggest you leave it alone---start saving the money needed to rebuild the walls---

The walls are 15 to 20 years past thier usable life---you will most likely find a rotten wall hiding under those tiles-----just a warning----Mike---
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That old wall is fragile--once you touch it it will be time to rip it back to the studs-----

I suggest you leave it alone---start saving the money needed to rebuild the walls---

The walls are 15 to 20 years past thier usable life---you will most likely find a rotten wall hiding under those tiles-----just a warning----Mike---
OK. I thought Bud had said to remove those tile but I guess I got it wrong.

Here is the problem, the tub surround looks like it was not part of the original tile like you said before. I don't know what they used, but it is like window caulking. the caulking seems fairly new. When I touch it with the grout brush it comes right off. It is softer. I don't think I want to leave it like that.

Here is what I think I want to do. I am asking for advice here, so don't think I am not listening. I will be the first to say I don't know what I am doing.

I want to use the grout brush on the tile surround and caulking and take it out of there. I am calling the thin round tile along the edge of the tub the tile surround (right?) Then I know there are 5 or 6 tile that are loose. I want to glue those back in place with liquid nails. Then I want to grout I guess? Then I want to put the tile surround back? I am asking.

I will be as careful as I can not to be too rough with the wall.

Does that sound like a reasonable plan?

I have to do something. After my handywork yesterday, my daughter just used the shower this evening and when I came downstairs to my bathroom there was water all over the floor. Not a ton but enough. It is still dripping slowly out of my ceiling now, it just happened. So she must have been spraying water on the tile and like I said yesterday, a lot of the grout came out yesterday when I scrubbed it.

So the plan right now is just to get it back in working order. I just want to get everything sealed up and be able to use it.

I'd like to start this weekend.

If there is a good reason not to do that, please let me know. But like I said, I have to do something real soon now.

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The entire alcove is the tub surround.

You are wasting your time screwing around with this thing. The grout is gone the wallboard behind the tile is gone, the shower is history.
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The entire alcove is the tub surround.

You are wasting your time screwing around with this thing. The grout is gone the wallboard behind the tile is gone, the shower is history.
I guess that is not what I wanted to hear, but thanks...
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You had water dripping below, this is just what we were saying, that has likely been going on for a long time, maybe not dripping, but definately soaking into the wall behind the tile.

Close it down and get started on tearing it out, the whole thing, not just a couple of rows, there is definately, mold and rot behing that wall that you are going to want to take care of.

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You had water dripping below, this is just what we were saying, that has likely been going on for a long time, maybe not dripping, but definately soaking into the wall behind the tile.

Close it down and get started on tearing it out, the whole thing, not just a couple of rows, there is definately, mold and rot behing that wall that you are going to want to take care of.

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