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Old 03-26-2014, 03:45 PM   #31
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The work we saw is worse than bad, and has to be redo. The backer boards might get damaged. If he also damaged the tub or anything else, I say he owes you money.

I don't know all the details, let us know what happens.

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It's better to hurt your buddy's feelings now by asking him to step away from this, that it is to have to rip it all out in a couple of years and get it done right.

If they are a good person they will be ok with that. if not you do not need them anyway.

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be fair.. in that you do have to redo that work.. explain that nicely...but a good contractor will redo that fairly quickly....just his hourly rate will be much more than 35.00 per hour...but i stand by my 1 st comment..stop him before he causes more trouble...
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be fair.. in that you do have to redo that work.. explain that nicely...but a good contractor will redo that fairly quickly....just his hourly rate will be much more than 35.00 per hour...but i stand by my 1 st comment..stop him before he causes more trouble...
Waiting for him to show up now to pick up his tools and for me to explain why he is not finishing the job.

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Waiting for him to show up now to pick up his tools and for me to explain why he is not finishing the job.

Thanks!
yep thats what being a man is all about ..just remember a real man also listens respectfuly and agrees with the truth...even if he is wrong ..now he has to be the man ..good luck.. be nice if he will let you...
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So he came by to get his tools and did offer to fix the tub and to re-do the walls. I was not up for that as I really just wanted to be done with this. I did pay him for three hours of work which I felt was way more than fair.

He did try to make excuses for everything but that is probably just the way he was taught how to do it so he thinks that he is right, Below is the list I was going to discuss with him but with listening to the excuses I had enough and just wanted him gone.

I will just take this as a learning experience, expensive one if I need a new tub, but a good one at the same time.

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1. Liner not under the tub
a. You said that you forgot and that it was not needed
i. Liner was purchased for a reason and should have been used
2. While tub was level on the back it was not screwed in all the way because the wall studs were not leveled out before putting in the tub.
a. When I expressed concern about the tub cracking you had said we could fill with Great Stuff however, I do not feel this will support the weight of the tub over time.
3. Shims for leveling the front of the tub were never cut causing them to move and possibly get the front of the tub out of line
4. Tub by the drain squeaks therefore will crack
a. When advised of this, no attempt was made to repair it.
5. Seams on the ceiling are off
a. You said that you donít know why
i. Board was not properly cut
6. Metal box on fan
a. You said that it is not needed
i. Wires are exposed so it is needed as they can catch in the fan blade.
7. Hardibacker not installed correctly
a. You said that it needs to rest on the tub and be at an angle for the water to run off
i. Backerboard should rest on the top of the flange and against the studs
8. Wrong tools
a. You knew Hardibacker was going to be installed yet the right drill was not brought or asked to get to hang it right.
9. When putting in the backerboard the tub was scratched and nicked.
a. No attempt was made to protect the rim of the tub to prevent this from happening
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Read the hardibacker installation instructions before you start. As shown in your pics there aren't enough screws. I believe it's every 8 inches. Those blue dots help guide your screwing pattern.

An impact driver will make short work of the screws. Hardibacker is tough to screw through.
Thank you for the help!

Would this be a good impact driver for the Hardibacker:

Ryobi One Plus 18-Volt Lithium-Ion Drill and Impact Driver Combo Kit (2-Tool)
http://www.homedepot.com/p/Ryobi-One...P882/203406854
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Can't say on the drill I haven't shopped for tools in a long time.

Be sure to get a mask. The dust from hardibacker isn't good to breathe and screwing creates a bit of dust.
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Best to follow the manufacturer's instructions; http://www.jameshardie.com/homeowner...install-us.pdf

On page 13 ? under "Wall" #3 mentions to leave a 1/4" gap between backer/tub flange, fill with caulking (flexible), not thinset (cement based) as the tub needs to expand/contract (plastic) due to the weight/temperature when loaded with water/person.

Tub requires support per manuf. directions (check yours), usually mortar mix, not drywall compound that dries and shrinks later- or canned foam, difficult to replace later and distort tub unless full of water/person til set, with a slip sheet to prevent bonding, #5; http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j...nNWXFt5rx5cW2Q

Read this, then read it again; http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j...2Qi6yxaqVetTEg

Pics of the fan would help...

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Added info., if the tile/tub caulking joint is compromised for any reason, the caulking (numerous backer board manu.) recomended at the board/tub flange won't wick surface water as cement material will.. especially if the tub settles from load/use and creates a gap to wick there. Your second line of defense.

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PS. "polymer" coated tape, not drywall fg tape; http://www.homerepairtutor.com/cemen...-bathtub-wall/
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you said its making a cracking sound by drain opening....which means its flexing...no no ...as mentioned ...did he set tub in mortor base...Iam guessing no ...again sorry..but it really should be set that way..
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Thank you for the help!

Would this be a good impact driver for the Hardibacker:

Ryobi One Plus 18-Volt Lithium-Ion Drill and Impact Driver Combo Kit (2-Tool)
http://www.homedepot.com/p/Ryobi-One...P882/203406854
Great set, I run RYOBI and am always pleased with it's performance.

On another note, you said earlier that your contractor buddy, posted to facebook, maybe he will see this string on there and study it to see what he could have done to "DO IT RIGHT THE FIRST TIME".

Especially if someone(you?) send him a link to it.

A real individual should be interested in learning .

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you said its making a cracking sound by drain opening....which means its flexing...no no ...as mentioned ...did he set tub in mortor base...Iam guessing no ...again sorry..but it really should be set that way..
No mortor base and the tub is off the ground. Will take it out and redo.
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So here is my next question:

So do I pay the guy that worked on my bathroom since all the work has to be done again and he damaged my new tub?

He wants $35 an hour for 5 hours. No contract and no deposit given to him.
Do you want to keep him as friend? Then pay him for his time. If you never want to be friends with him and have made a new enemy don't pay him. I have had hired guys that have done the work wrong. I had to fire them and still pay them their wages. same thing pay him and call it tuition for the school of hard knocks. Also he can put a lien on your home if you don't pay him.

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Do you want to keep him as friend? Then pay him for his time. If you never want to be friends with him and have made a new enemy don't pay him. I have had hired guys that have done the work wrong. I had to fire them and still pay them their wages. same thing pay him and call it tuition for the school of hard knocks. Also he can put a lien on your home if you don't pay him.
We settled on three hours of pay since it all has to be redone.

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