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Old 03-17-2011, 01:43 PM   #1
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I am going to install tile around a bathtub with the bottom 2-3 feet being 1" glass mosaic tile and the top half being ceramic. The ceramic tile is much thicker than the glass, about a 1/4". How do I build out the wall to make them even?

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Old 03-17-2011, 04:13 PM   #2
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You can use a square-notched tile trowel to evenly and neatly spread modified thinset on the wall. Then the next day use a large sanding block to flatten out any humps or bumps or mis-guided trowel marks. Then, apply another coat of modified thinset to fill the grooves only this time use the flat side of the trowel.

At this point you can compare the two tiles side by side on the wall and either add more thinset or sand off more thinset until you have the proper thickness of fill on the wall.

Piece-o-cake.

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Excellent, thank you very much. Would you install the top tile first then build up the wall or build up the wall, do the bottom tile then the top tile?
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Excellent, thank you very much. Would you install the top tile first then build up the wall or build up the wall, do the bottom tile then the top tile?
I think I would install the thicker tile (top tile) first so I would know exactly where I needed to be when lifting the thinner tile.

Keep in mind the thinset behind the top tile will push out the tile a little.
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Just curious, if you do the upper tile first, how do you support the tile to keep it from falling off? I ask this if by chance you're doing a larger tile above.
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Just curious, if you do the upper tile first, how do you support the tile to keep it from falling off? I ask this if by chance you're doing a larger tile above.
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lol duhh, I've done that before with upper cabinets
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Ha, thanks. I didn't even think of that. Its my first try at doing tile so it should be interesting.
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Its my first try at doing tile so it should be interesting.
Yes it could. Are you using any waterproofing on the walls first? Specifically what are you using as an adhesive?

I always get a kick when people select tiles of different thicknesses. It can create problems, not to mention all the extra time. But you can do it, be careful cuz it can get messy. Next time you can buy thicker glass tiles instead.

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Yes it could. Are you using any waterproofing on the walls first? Specifically what are you using as an adhesive?

I always get a kick when people select tiles of different thicknesses. It can create problems, not to mention all the extra time. But you can do it, be careful cuz it can get messy. Next time you can buy thicker glass tiles instead.

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Well, if I had my way I would have done one tile all around but since my wife is the decorator I choose not to fight this battle. She bought the tile before I could really say anything.

I put up cement backer on the walls with a vapor barrier. I've got some thinset mortar as adhesive for the tiles.
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I put up cement backer on the walls with a vapor barrier.
OK, that's good and more than lots of people do. The "barrier" is on the studs under the CBU, right? It's not really a "barrier", it a vapor retarder.

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I've got some thinset mortar as adhesive for the tiles.
I was hoping you'd be specific as not all thin sets would be appropriate for your installation.

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Yes, the retarder is between the CBU and the studs.

Not sure what kind of thinset I have since its not sitting in front of me and I'm at work.

What would you recommend?
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Glass tiles generally require a specific thinset. The garden variety entry-level thinsets available at home centers typically doesn't qualify for use with glass. You can get proper thinset recommendations from the glass tile manufacturers.
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So i put up the upper tiles and I need to build the wall out 1/4". Would it be possible to use 1/4" cbu over the 1/2" cbu instead of troweling on all that mortar? The space is 3 feet high on three walls directly above the tub. About 30 sq ft of space. My biggest concern is where the wall meets the tub and being able to get it set properly with out the wall resting on the lip of the tub.
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Would it be possible to use 1/4" cbu over the 1/2" cbu instead of troweling on all that mortar?
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My biggest concern is where the wall meets the tub and being able to get it set properly with out the wall resting on the lip of the tub.
I guess I'm not seeing that as a probelm. Maybe I'm missing something. If that much additional wall thickness (plus the tile thickness) doesn't move your wall surface out too far as it relates to any curvatures of the tub, go for it.

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