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Old 07-10-2010, 01:59 AM   #1
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Do I need to use a batten board for the first rows of tile?


Hey guys I am gettting to tile in the next few days. I am doing the bathtub walls x3. I am using 8" wide tile by 18" long and I am going to by laying them verticle in a subway pattern. My question is can I just start the tile off the edge of the tub with say a 1/8" spacer under the tile which would be placed on the tub. The tub is 100% level on all 4 ends. Or would I need to go up say 18 1/8th and install the batten then go up from there and finish out the bottom section last. Thanks
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You will want to install a ledger board on the three walls--your tub is not level--I promise you that.

The tub tiles will be cut to fit the surface of the tub.

Make sure the ledger is less than 18 inches.---This comes from experience--you may have the first ever perfectly level tub.

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Well I am confused on how to do a ledger board when I have 2 tile heights at the base I am basically going to have 8" then 18" then 8" and so on. So do I start with the shorter ledger board first (closest to the tub) then get a row of tiles in so it would look like this (imagine the "l" is 1 tile 8x18)

l l l l l l

There is a space there indicating an 8 1/4" space for the other tile to slide into. Is that how you would do it. Basically will I have 2 levels of ledger board. If so when do I put the 2nd level up as soon as the first tile row of tile is laid.
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Or would I draw a snap line to make sure it is level then cut each ledger board down to 8" or shorter and stager the boards as the tile will be laid which would be every other one 9-18-9-18-9 etc from the tub. Man I hope this is making some sense!! I am using 1/8 spacing so my tolerance is pretty tight.

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You would pick a difficult layout for your first job!

I'd snap out the two different start lines ---then use small nails or screws to keep the tiles in that row from sliding.

If you have waterproofed the board-- dab some water proofing into the holes after the nails are removed.

Using a ledger will not work in this situation---this will add a little extra time to your tile setting.

Take some pictures as you work--it will be fun to see the progress.----Mike---
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It is a difficult layout kind of. My wife said, "well this is how I want it done." so the true DIY'r said, "yeah what the hell, we can do that." Anyway instead of going every other one we decided on doing a random pattern of vertical. We placed the tiles and the ground and measured everything out and it looks sweet on the ground. We moved over to the wall last night and got half the wall done and it looks excellent so far! I plan on having the back wall done tonight or tomorrow and I will snap some photos then. Now I do have a question mike. When I butt the end walls up with the back wall do I grout the corners or use the matching caulk that I purchased from Thetileshop. I was more nervous starting this project than I was to even get married! Thanks
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The mating surfaces always need to be caulked---If the grout maker has a color match--that is usually the best choice.

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hey mike check out my profile I got some of the pics up from my tiling job. I think it turned out excellent for my first one. Let me know what you think. We are going to grout on Sunday and get all the accessories put on later in the week. Flooring is next.
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Look good!!!!

Your camera 'curved' the side walls---at first I was amazed that you could set the tiles so nicely on a bowed wall.----Mike---
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yeah that is an odd picture with the walls like that. Trust me they are straight! Thanks again for your help. I gain confidence when I come on here and get good trusted answers to my questions. More questions are surely to come!
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